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Old 10-04-2012, 01:18 AM   #41 (permalink)
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They need to change policy on television writers and go back to good old fashioned booking again. More stars are created that way especially in regards to heels and tag teams as well as getting more out of the mid card so that people are actually entertained by them. This can be done, and still maintain the precious TV-PG ratings as long as they leave out the cussing, chair shots, and blading.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:22 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Just look at what they did to Daniel Bryan. He could've been a genuine top star for them with such a weak roster, instead they present him and forever tainted him as a midcard laughing stock who jobbed to AJ. They absolutely fail at every instance in maximizing their talent when the timing is right. They always wait either too long, or they just refuse to pull the trigger. Guys like MVP, Kennedy, Morrison, Umaga, Carlito, Miz, RVD, Kofi, Christian, Barrett, and countless, countless others could've been more than what they actually were, but they've cultivated an atmosphere where if you're a midcarder showing any confidence or self-respect you're looked as arrogant and hard to work with, and if you don't, they think you're a beta midcarder and you're only chance is if someone high up likes you.
what? she gets dumped by him but its her fault that he sucks now? Anyways Sheamus is the one who destroyed him into next Tuesday. 2 PPVs, a street fight, and he made him tap like a fool.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:25 AM   #43 (permalink)
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what? she gets dumped by him but its her fault that he sucks now? Anyways Sheamus is the one who destroyed him into next Tuesday. 2 PPVs, a street fight, and he made him tap like a fool.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:27 AM   #44 (permalink)
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The best thing they have ever had in the last 8 years was all the CM Punk stuff in mid 2011...and it wasn't planned by them...And once the had it, they ruined it. How could you ruin something so amazing? Only they know how.
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with the 2.5 rating and the overall poor numbers they have done this year, its there own fault

who have they pushed in the last 8 years, a guy who is clearly not over but dominates every week

when lesnar is brought in who does he face, hhh who is not a full time wrestler, if they go ahead with the rematch is does nothing except fill hunters ego

undertaker facing hhh AGAIN does nothing for the future, we saw that match twice at mania before but they go ahead with it again, 2 guys in there 40s who don't even wrestle anymore (barely)

with the rock and lesnar and taker all at mania, its drawing big number anyways, so why not start pushing new younger talent and build for the future

wwe has done nothing for the future, cena and punk are the only 2 guys on the roster who can draw, both are aging and worn out with nagging injuries

so where does this leave the wwe right now, ryback is going to be a bust, if thats the guy there banking on i feel sorry for them

vince will probably rush cena back, but that is a short term fix and will not address the real problem this company has

vince should of pushed younger talent atleast 3-4 years ago and turned cena heel last year if not before that, now there screwed


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Old 10-04-2012, 02:23 AM   #46 (permalink)
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The best thing they have ever had in the last 8 years was all the CM Punk stuff in mid 2011...and it wasn't planned by them...And once the had it, they ruined it. How could you ruin something so amazing? Only they know how.
100% agreed

best thing to come out of this company in 8 years and it wasn't even planned, and what do they do, they screw it up


it turned into a hhh thing again, then his buddy nash returned and the rest is history

that storyline could of been huge, turn vince or hhh heel and form a new coporate stable, punk fighting hhh at mania and winning or something along those lines

but what do we get, a nash/hhh match because they wanted one more match because they buddys

glad to know hhh cares more about his personal friends than the company, how you like the state of your future company now hhh
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:35 AM   #47 (permalink)
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OP, you make some points (obvious ones that didn't need to be pointed out), but you're off on two in particular.

"Who have they pushed in the last 8 years": Is this some kind of hidden anti-Cena comment? They've pushed a lot of people besides Cena. Especially recently, which confuses the shit out of me that you're talking about them not pushing anyone when they've pushed more new people recently than I've ever seen them push at once before.

Quick rundown of big "newbie" pushes in the last year and a half:

The Nexus (massive push)

Wade Barret (twice), including jamming him down our throats the first time.

Daniel Bryan is in the middle of a gigantic push.

Brodus Clay was undefeated for like half a year.

Ryback has squashed like 40 opponents and lost 0 times.

Damien Sandow has been pinned only once, and it was this week by Sheamus. . .in a match that semi put him over as a legit force in the ring anyway.

Cesaro is crushing people and has a title.

Zack Ryder got tons of air time, got put over Ziggler repeatedly, got put in the biggest celeb host spot I can even remember on Raw, won US title later in a match that was really pumped up for a good while.

Sin Cara

Del Rio (though he is a bit more than a year and a half ago)


Guys who have gotten big pushes beyond any ones they've ever gotten before:

CM Punk got a massive push for over a year straight, and it still continues.

Dolph Ziggler got a WWE title shot and won MITB, i.e. he's getting the WHC soon. Not to mention increased mic time, and has been slotted in MANY main events as an emergency filler.

Sheamus is in the middle of a super push.

Mark Henry? He was never billed as powerfully as he was last year. They even put him over Randy Orton cleanly. TWICE. WWE practically never puts heels over top faces clean.



So I don't get the complaints about "who have they pushed", because most of the roster is fairly new. The "8 years ago roster" barely has anybody on it who's still on the roster now dude. Barely anyone from 5 years ago is still on the roster. Shit, even 3 years ago



On Ryback being a bust: I don't agree at all. I think you have a bad eye for talent. I called both Ryback and Cesaro as being big in the future a couple months ago, and people here disagreed on both, claiming only Sandow was the best new guy. Now many are changing their minds about Cesaro, and Ryback is being booked as a guy that makes the WWE champ punk out two back to back weeks.

They're going to be busts though, sure. Even though Cesaro is clearly great in the ring and Ryback was getting more pops earlier this week than any non main eventer has gotten in several weeks. And that was against CM Punk of all people.

Ryback needs some work, but clearly is nowhere near being a bust. He's already shown enough potential to prove he isn't one. That comment you made might've been acceptable 2 months ago though.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:46 AM   #48 (permalink)
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...so why not start pushing new younger talent and build for the future
Hmm... let's see when WWE tried pushing the Miz and put him in WM main event soon after that it was called one of the worst WM's ever. Can't really blame WWE for not giving a push to young talents. I agree that some booking (like HHH vs Brock) is ridiculous because those guys are far from being FT but who is WWE supposed to push then? Zack Ryder? Sandow? Sandow will get stale with the whole "I'm here to teach you a few words" genius BS... Look at Punk, he is having the time of his life with the long title reign and he is cutting decent promos YET the ratings are falling and falling and falling... Ryback so far seems to be a one trick pony "I squash" and that's it, eventually people will get tired of this. I know quite a few people who already are.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:01 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Writing crew is slacking thats pretty much the reason why nothing really changes, when WWE writers pull accidently something awesome like the nexus angle in 2010 or the Cm Punk angle last year they always succeed screwing it up somehow usually they just screw up the momentum.

Writing isnt "Long-Term" writing nad the back up plans if injuries occurs etc, are very lame
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:05 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I'm interested on who you're talking about in your first line.

If its Cena then, lol.
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