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EnemyOfMankind · 10-03-2012, 07:28 PM

they need new creative team

sesshomaru · 10-03-2012, 07:42 PM

I remember back in 2006 Edge's shock win over Cena at NYR pushed the ratings from ~3.5 to 4+. Now the ratings are 2.5? Holy shit that's a "downward trend" that you don't need to be a statistician to see.

**Ricezilla** · 10-03-2012, 07:49 PM

What made WWE believe people would want to watch this shit for 3 hours.

Kabraxal · 10-03-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricezilla

What made WWE believe people would want to watch this shit for 3 hours.

The same thing that made them think we've wanted to watch it for the past 6 years... it's just now coming around that after years of abuse fans aren't willing to put up with it anymore. McMahon, if he was ever a genius at any point, is clearly not anymore. He's lost it and is so out of touch with what people tune into a wrestling company to see.

Smoogle · 10-03-2012, 07:53 PM

Back in the day there wasn't just a guy...well it didn't feel like that for me but they could always transitions to new guys if some other guy left........angle,jericho,edge,eddie,Hardys, so on so forth today it feels like it's the John cena show featuring CM Punk

they need to grow some balls and really make new stars whoop some ass and become threats.

JigsawKrueger · 10-03-2012, 08:12 PM

They've had a lot of talent come and go too:

Raven
Rhino
Sean O' Haire
Mr Kennedy
Elijah Burke
Carlito
Shelton Benjamin
Kenny Dykstra
Muhammad Hassan
MVP
Dudley Boyz
Marcus Cor Von
Paul Burchill
Lance Storm
Matt Hardy
Chris Masters
John Morrison
Matt Morgan

They never really capitalized on how popular RVD was in 2001. They could have taken full advantage of Del Rio's character. The Miz, Christian, Dolph Ziggler, Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett and Cody Rhodes have suffered strange booking. Drew McIntyre and Alex Riley have been buried. R-Truth went from very over crazy heel to boring joke. Santino Marella is actually much better than comedy act. Zack Ryder was legit over as hell and can go in the ring.

There was a set storyline involving Foley that would have catapulted Dean Ambrose to the top.

RiZE · 10-03-2012, 08:16 PM

Why do some always blame creative when most of their ideas don't even make it to television?

It's Vince.

**Skyfall** · 10-03-2012, 08:20 PM

well, OP, would you say that WWE should start making Drastic changes to save the product? literally have mid carders go over Main Eventers or Ryback end the Undertaker's streak? stuff like that? I think that's where we are at, the only thing to save the WWE is do crazy drastic stuff.

Important to know, Cena can be replaced (Sheamus or even any one younger with a hero's build), so it's never going to be "to save WWE they must do _________". They do seem to be afraid of trying radically different things, and I think it's because they're company isn't as strong as it was from the last 8 years. and you're right OP, they're pretty much backed into a corner; but only because they're not willing to take bigger risks.

example, let's say they build up Ryback vs Punk over the next 5 weeks. If Cena comes back the day before HIAC, he'll replace Ryback; that's how scared they are to not use Cena. they shouldn't be thinking, how can Cena save this; it should be what wrestlers would do good here.

11rob2k · 10-03-2012, 08:20 PM

Yes, Cena is the only full time guy who has any star power in the wwe and no one else will reach that level until they get a clean win over him, the wwe title means nothing now a clean win over Cena is the only thing that will get you over and up to Cenas level and Vince still wont let that happen, so we wont be seeing anyone getting up to the next leavel any time soon.

The way heels are booked now is also hurting the faces getting over, no one cares if Sheamus beats Del Rio or Zigger because they've been made to look like jokes for the last 6 months, you need strong heels who can win matches clean if they have too so that they seem like a threat to the faces, you cant get be hide a face who always wins and is made to look like an unstoppable force.

SideTableDrawer · 10-03-2012, 08:58 PM

Vince let's his personal beliefs get in the way of business. There was a thread here about an ex-writer saying how creative have had some great ideas, but they get thrown out the window when analyzed by Vince. It's like Vince IS the creative team.

The old man is a cancer.