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Old 10-02-2012, 09:20 AM   #41 (permalink)
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But DBD closed out, I thought.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:20 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Ratings means something to the company but I see no reason to base anything off it as a viewer. A viewer should just want quality.

McDonald's makes the most money out of any restaurant chain, but it hardly means that they serve quality food. If Lady Gaga sells more albums than another doesn't really mean that she has to be a more competent musician.

Ratings are only relevant to you being entertained if you're actively trying to mainstream.
Precisely. Posted before I saw this.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:34 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Because ratings means everything in the business.That is how WWE stays relevant on TV.
Ratings = cash .WWE aint ROH,indy company.

Among active roster Guan Sena is the king of ratings,despite what your personal opinion over Cena's drawing power may be.Big Show is a bigger draw than Punk.
Punk's antics on RAW may be the best entertainment available on TV for you but there are millions and millions out there who'll find Punk's whinny ass too boring to endure .As far as ratings is concerned,Phil cant even hold Guan Sena's jockstraps so to speak

Essentially,Boring shows = low ratings .Entertainment = Good ratings .
Raw is CM punk = low ratings
This is all false. If people dislike wrestling or think its pathetic they aren't gonna start watching because of who the champion is, who gets the most TV time. Not even an entertaining show always gets ratings. If people aren't fans of wrestling 1 person/entertaining show won't make them into fanatics.

Who has Cena drawn? No one! If Cena was a draw, the rating would be higher than they are. It's not like he's not on the show at anytime.

Phil? Does that make you an insider, do you like to pretend you know CM Punk! You will show the champion respect and call him by his in ring name! You don't know him personally so you don't use his real name!! Do you call Hogan terry? The Rock Dwanye? Well done, you can't tell fantasy from reality!
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #44 (permalink)
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So let me get this straight....When Cm punk was getting damn near ZERO time in important segments whilst being the champion it was a problem..

Now he is getting the bulk of the air time... and it's still a problem??

WWE Giving zero fucks about the IWC forever...and so do I !

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:43 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Ratings means something to the company but I see no reason to base anything off it as a viewer. A viewer should just want quality.

McDonald's makes the most money out of any restaurant chain, but it hardly means that they serve quality food. If Lady Gaga sells more albums than another doesn't really mean that she has to be a more competent musician.

Ratings are only relevant to you being entertained if you're actively trying to mainstream.
McDonald analogy is flawed.Rating means everything to WWE whether you disagree or no-sell.That is why Vinnie Mac once upon a time was a billionaire.

Raw as a whole is a product manufactured by WWE.Guys like Punk,Guan Sena,Big Show,Hulk Hogan,The Rock are its commodities.TV ratings indicate the marketability of WWE's product.If nobody buys the commodity then your product is doomed to fail.If your product fails then eventually TV Co. will look for alternative products that have marketability.It is all about revenue and revenue sharing.

Essentially ,Attitude ERA was all about ratings,no?Who lost the ratings war and had to close business?

Ratings = Entertainment! CM Phil = Low ratings

That is why i used the ROH,indy company reference in my previous post.Once again, it's World Wrestling Entertainment and NOT Ring of Honor,right?
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:50 AM   #46 (permalink)
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That may explain why I've completely stopped watching. This guy is such a one-hit wonder. His shtick was entertaining last summer for a few weeks, then it got tiresome and when he had to drop down into a "regular superstar", he became extremely boring. Now they're trying to have him walk the line between the two and he is still as boring as ever, putting him in segments with Bret Hart, JR, Mick Foley, Paul Heyman or other legends is not gonna change that.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:57 AM   #47 (permalink)
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McDonald analogy is flawed.Rating means everything to WWE whether you disagree or no-sell.That is why Vinnie Mac once upon a time was a billionaire.

Raw as a whole is a product manufactured by WWE.Guys like Punk,Guan Sena,Big Show,Hulk Hogan,The Rock are its commodities.TV ratings indicate the marketability of WWE's product.If nobody buys the commodity then your product is doomed to fail.If your product fails then eventually TV Co. will look for alternative products that have marketability.It is all about revenue and revenue sharing.

Essentially ,Attitude ERA was all about ratings,no?Who lost the ratings war and had to close business?

Ratings = Entertainment! CM Phil = Low ratings

That is why i used the ROH,indy company reference in my previous post.Once again, it's World Wrestling Entertainment and NOT Ring of Honor,right?
Your do know that WWE makes most of their money these days off merchandise right?

And I will tell you why ratings don't phase them too much in today's wwe, because you obviously don't understand. The answer is YOUTUBE, Hulu, and all other engines on the internet that can be used in this technology age to view segments you want to see.

There is a reason wwe has a youtube channel and had every other channel blocked from posting their videos, and its because the sheer amount of money they bring in on every "hit" their videos get. Guess which guys generally have the most youtube hits for their segments on youtube? If you haven't guessed yet, its Punk and Bryan, with Cena just behind them.

So yes ratings from a Neilson Box that doesn't even encompass a huge percentage of their fanbase since most boxes are in the southern states (casual hotbeds), isn't taken as seriously by the wwe these days as it was in the attitude era. There are other tools just as relevant to the wwe when evaluating drawing ability.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:02 AM   #48 (permalink)
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McDonald analogy is flawed.Rating means everything to WWE whether you disagree or no-sell.That is why Vinnie Mac once upon a time was a billionaire.

Raw as a whole is a product manufactured by WWE.Guys like Punk,Guan Sena,Big Show,Hulk Hogan,The Rock are its commodities.TV ratings indicate the marketability of WWE's product.If nobody buys the commodity then your product is doomed to fail.If your product fails then eventually TV Co. will look for alternative products that have marketability.It is all about revenue and revenue sharing.

Essentially ,Attitude ERA was all about ratings,no?Who lost the ratings war and had to close business?

Ratings = Entertainment! CM Phil = Low ratings

That is why i used the ROH,indy company reference in my previous post.Once again, it's World Wrestling Entertainment and NOT Ring of Honor,right?
I don't think they are trying to improve ratings, I mean take last night show for example. Just random stuff coming out, poor acting, a lot of botching. They just don't seem to care. When you see the buyrates it's not really changing whether it's Punk or Cena. Brock Lesnar did good but I guess the advertisement helped and the last two mainevents were big. Ratings are just numbers that doesnt necessarily be blamed for one guy "it's a whole product" just like what you said.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:18 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Nope.

Also a person mentioned RAW getting the lowest rating in years and its Punk's fault?

Poor booking, poor scripts. That's it. Punk's the only reason most male viewers watch while little kids cry their ass off because superman was not on tonight.

It's just a matter of time that Cena quits and Punk's the new face of the company. People have to deal with it.

No, Ryback will NOT, NEVER be the face of the company. A bulky guy with a poor ability to speak is not the face of the company.

WWE needs to flush its system and get rid of the shitty wrestlers it has now. Punk, Sandow and Ziggler are the only reason I watch RAW, without them, Supercena will turn RAW into a Hello Kitty show with boob cancer.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:26 AM   #50 (permalink)
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OH yeah, lets totally complain about an awesome heel who puts on gold promos every week, while being the WWE Champion with a really long reign. Is there anything wrong with him getting spotlight? oh and Raw IS Cm Punk and i hope it stays this way.
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