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Old 10-01-2012, 10:10 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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he just fkd up on the way he put A Train down.
that wasnt a lack of strength.. he still picked up ATrain and was running around with A-Train on his shoulders... something Ryback couldnt

and he has other matches with A-Train where he belly to belly suplexes him and F5s him multiple times.
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I'm a personal trainer, I have a lot of lifting experience. I've never once said lifting a human of Tensai's size/weight is "easy", I've simply compared to his power to the likes of Goldberg and Lesnar, both of who Ryback comes up considerably short against in the strength/power department.
You didn't say it was easy, but you commented on how "Lesnar and Goldberg could do their moves to Tensai", as if it's just as easy as what Ryback does.

It isn't. At all. Ryback could've thrown his back out doing it the way he does, since he's lifting "incorrectly". Something you SHOULD know as a trainer, and certainly shouldn't warrant comments about how Lesnar could fireman's carry bigger guys when that's about 50% easier than how Ryback was tying to lift a sandbagging Tensai. A straight suplex isn't much easier, but it is a bit easier.

You're also dead wrong about Ryback coming up "considerably short" of Goldberg and Lesnar in the power department too. I will list their actual power numbers later in this post in reply to the other guy too. But in a nutshell, Ryback's confirmed power numbers are 5% higher than Goldberg's confirmed power numbers. Goldberg claimed in interviews that he could do 10% more than his own confirmed numbers (which would mean he was only 4.5% stronger than Ryback); however, nobody else has substantiated it.


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this.

Theyre pushing Ryback to be the modern day Goldberg or Brock, but he isn't even close.

Goldberg has a higher bench press and squat than Ryback... and Brock's bench and squat is even higher than both of them.
You're 1/3rd right. Lesnar is stronger than both. . .now (not before). Goldberg's alleged bench press is more than Ryback, but his confirmed bench press is less. Even if his alleged bench press was what he says it is, it's not "not even close".

Goldberg's alleged bench press: 550 lbs. However, I have seen elsewhere that the most he's ever done is 500 lbs. The only place I've heard Goldberg hitting 550 lbs was from his own mouth. Nobody's seen it and said "yeah I've seen him do 550".

Ryback's: 525 lbs.

Alleged bench press: 25 lbs more, aka 4.5% more.

So he'd have 95.5% of Goldberg's alleged bench press, and 105% of his confirmed bench press.

I can't find a reputable site with their confirmed squat or deadlift numbers, or I'd also post those.

Lesnar's old bench numbers were 475 lbs with WWE, and it has increased over the years to allegedly nearly 600 lbs according to some sources on MMA sites.
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You didn't say it was easy, but you commented on how "Lesnar and Goldberg could do their moves to Tensai", as if it's just as easy as what Ryback does.

It isn't. At all. Ryback could've thrown his back out doing it the way he does, since he's lifting "incorrectly". Something you SHOULD know as a trainer, and certainly shouldn't warrant comments about how Lesnar could fireman's carry bigger guys when that's at least 50% easier than how Ryback was tying to lift a sandbagging Tensai.

You're also dead wrong about Ryback coming up "considerably short" of Goldberg and Lesnar in the power department too. I will list their actual power numbers later in this post in reply to the other guy too. But in a nutshell, Ryback's confirmed power numbers are 5% higher than Goldberg's confirmed power numbers. Goldberg claimed in interviews that he could do 10% more than his own confirmed numbers (which would mean he was only 4.5% stronger than Ryback); however, nobody else has substantiated it.




You're 1/3rd right. Lesnar is stronger than both. . .now (not before). Goldberg's alleged bench press is more than Ryback, but his confirmed bench press is less. Even if his alleged bench press was what he says it is, it's not "not even close".

Goldberg's alleged bench press: 550 lbs. However, I have seen elsewhere that the most he's ever done is 500 lbs. The only place I've heard Goldberg hitting 550 lbs was from his own mouth. Nobody's seen it and said "yeah I've seen him do 550".

Ryback's: 525 lbs.

Alleged bench press: 25 lbs more, aka 4.5% more.

So he'd have 95.5% of Goldberg's alleged bench press, and 105% of his confirmed bench press.

I can't find a reputable site with their confirmed squat or deadlift numbers, or I'd also post those.

Lesnar's old bench numbers were 475 lbs with WWE, and it has increased over the years.
Actually, Lesnar's bench was 475 with the NFL at the combine... which was 1 MONTH after his motor cycle accident where he broke his hand and injured his back. Despite injuries, He was still able to bench 475, squat 720 and bench 225 at 44 reps.

If you read his book and watched his documentary, he said that his NFL stats, despite being very good, could have been better if he was 100%, but his accident affected it a great deal... and his max bench press was actually over 600lbs. (645 to be exact) with an over 850lb squat. Kurt Angle also said in the documentary that he had personally seen Brock do a 645lb bench press.
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No struggle there. Holly sandbagged, Lesnar knew it, got pissed, threw him down on purpose
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Yeah but he had to pick him up and balance him slowly so he could rest him on his shoulders for the big drop. I think that is what made it so hard. Maybe he was scared his ankle would get screwed up again in the middle of the push of his life? Either way, let the man evolve. There's gonna be some stumbles.
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No struggle there. Holly sandbagged, Lesnar knew it, got pissed, threw him down on purpose
Exactly, and if Lesnar couldn't pick up a sandbagging Holly, i don't see how people think Ryback could lift a sandbagging Tensai, who easily weighs over 100 pound more.
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Actually, Lesnar's bench was 475 with the NFL at the combine... which was 1 MONTH after his motor cycle accident where he broke his hand and injured his back. Despite injuries, He was still able to bench 475, squat 720 and bench 225 at 44 reps.

If you read his book and watched his documentary, he said that his NFL stats, despite being very good, could have been better if he was 100%, but his accident affected it a great deal... and his max bench press was actually over 600lbs. (645 to be exact) with an over 850lb squat. Kurt Angle also said in the documentary that he had personally seen Brock do a 645lb bench press.
K, so you've replied to the last sentence of my post. Or rather, you replied to one three letter acronym in my post (for posting "WWE" instead of "NFL"). I never disputed that Lesnar was stronger than Ryback in the first place, I agreed that he was, so that point's been over already. It's in dead horse territory now.

What the rest of it? Such are your claim that Ryback isn't even close to as strong as Goldberg, yet I posted their stats and it's a 5% difference in favor of Ryback, or a mere 4.5% difference in favor of Goldberg if you take his word for it.
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