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THunter · 10-08-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Deshad C.

Sooo...just to be clear.

People hate Ryback now because...he's not stronger than Goldberg and Cena?

Damn, I didn't know you guys cared so much about how much these guys bench press...

Well said.

When I watched the Tensai vs. Ryback match, it looked fairly clear to me that two things went awry - the first being the technique in which Ryback used to lift Tensai - because as opposed to a simple lift onto the shoulders (of which I'm sure Ryback could have achieved), he instead attempts to utilise an unorthodox technique of lifting, with the arm through the opponents leg, whilst also as a result being slightly off balance when lifting. It's just a recipe for disaster, no matter which Superstar was to perform the same move on Tensai.

Secondly, Tensai clearly didn't jump and leverage himself into a suitable position for Ryback to then follow through with. I would probably be more inclined to blame Tensai than simply Ryback, blaming "a lack of power", when in reality, that is unlikely to be the case.

If Ryback was to perform the FU on Tensai, I'm sure he could accomplish it, because the technique of the FU requires a very simple first stage in the lift. A straight forward carry onto the shoulders. Whereas with Ryback's finisher, there is the awkward hook of the leg, and the lack of balance as a result of the leaning due to the apparent need to grasp in between the opponent's leg.

I just find it slightly stupid how the "IWC" focuses far more upon the negative aspects than that of the positives. Why? Because it's probably easier to bitch and bicker, as opposed to giving credit when and where credit is due unfortunately.

Personally, I'm enjoying watching Ryback. He just needs to slightly alter the manner in which he lifts his opponents - simply tweak the lift to that similar of the FU and F5 - and Ryback will be back on track. I'm not expecting to see 45 minute wrestling classics from Ryback, but what I am hoping for, is variety. It's nice to watch the WWE and see a variety of wrestlers and matches, from the newly inspiring tag team division, to Ryback's crushing victories, to lengthier matches involving Punk (who is a slightly sloppy wrestler if we're going to nitpick like girls) etc.

dante1st · 10-08-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by THunter

Well said.

When I watched the Tensai vs. Ryback match, it looked fairly clear to me that two things went awry - the first being the technique in which Ryback used to lift Tensai - because as opposed to a simple lift onto the shoulders (of which I'm sure Ryback could have achieved), he instead attempts to utilise an unorthodox technique of lifting, with the arm through the opponents leg, whilst also as a result being slightly off balance when lifting. It's just a recipe for disaster, no matter which Superstar was to perform the same move on Tensai.

Secondly, Tensai clearly didn't jump and leverage himself into a suitable position for Ryback to then follow through with. I would probably be more inclined to blame Tensai than simply Ryback, blaming "a lack of power", when in reality, that is unlikely to be the case.

If Ryback was to perform the FU on Tensai, I'm sure he could accomplish it, because the technique of the FU requires a very simple first stage in the lift. A straight forward carry onto the shoulders. Whereas with Ryback's finisher, there is the awkward hook of the leg, and the lack of balance as a result of the leaning due to the apparent need to grasp in between the opponent's leg.

I just find it slightly stupid how the "IWC" focuses far more upon the negative aspects than that of the positives. Why? Because it's probably easier to bitch and bicker, as opposed to giving credit when and where credit is due unfortunately.

Personally, I'm enjoying watching Ryback. He just needs to slightly alter the manner in which he lifts his opponents - simply tweak the lift to that similar of the FU and F5 - and Ryback will be back on track. I'm not expecting to see 45 minute wrestling classics from Ryback, but what I am hoping for, is variety. It's nice to watch the WWE and see a variety of wrestlers and matches, from the newly inspiring tag team division, to Ryback's crushing victories, to lengthier matches involving Punk (who is a slightly sloppy wrestler if we're going to nitpick like girls) etc.

Oh shut up. Ryback sucks. End of story.

**NathWFC** · 10-08-2012, 01:24 PM

What's the betting Ryback's back to squashing 150lb jobbers tonight, to ensure he can actually, you know, pull his finisher off?

**NathWFC** · 10-08-2012, 01:26 PM

"No way, he can't do this, even Ryback isn't this strong?! Oh my, he's done it, he's got Alicia Fox on his shoulders!"

JAROTO · 10-08-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dante1st

Oh shut up. Ryback sucks. End of story.

The story is far from ending...give him a break. He deserves the opportunity to show he has what it takes to be a top guy.

**ChromeMan** · 10-08-2012, 01:36 PM

1. I think they both botched it on Raw

2. Tensai is a fat fuck, so that doesn't help matters either.

Vin Ghostal · 10-08-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dante1st

Oh shut up. Ryback sucks. End of story.

Wow! What a compelling argument! Do you use that sort of logic when teaching grad school classes?

faceface · 10-08-2012, 02:29 PM

He should really just lift the heaviest guys up the same way Cena and Punk do. It's not like some finishers where the initial setup is key to popping the crowd, as soon as he starts the marching they'll get into it just the same way.

Kaban · 10-08-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dante1st

Oh shut up. Ryback sucks. End of story.

No.... YOU Sir. suck.

Get the fuck out of here or don't post if you are not going to bring anything to the table.

**Clique** · 10-08-2012, 02:55 PM

Alright this topic is exhausted.