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Goldberg would have killed that fucking joke jobber Jericho if the locker room wouldn't step in. Jericho just slapped him and the Goldberg choke the fuck outta him. If you believe what that fucking low life piece of shit Bret Hart says then you're just like him. the old douche is still mad that Goldberg killed his wrestling career.
It's always hilarious when people are trying to sound tough on the Internet. Small dogs and their bark...
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It's always hilarious when people are trying to sound tough on the Internet. Small dogs and their bark...
you wanna fight? I have big black fellas that would want a piece of you.

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you wanna fight? I have big black fellas that would want a piece of you.
As we both assume we live far away from each other the only fighting we can do is a battle of wits, but there's not much point to that when one guy is unarmed.

By the way, "big black fellas", does that mean black Sheamus impersonators? Maybe that would be something to see.

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Neither one of those Batista vids were a botch. Batista and Book hate each other so that was probably a sandbag and Batista still muscled him up. The second one he just looks back to see if Cena is out of the way before bumping on top of him.

Botches aren't the reason Ryback sucks. The fact that he can't work a two minute squash without getting gassed, and the fact that he has a power gimmick and botches POWER moves is the reason he sucks. It's like Sin Cara botching all his high spots. If you can't hit what your character is noted for then you've got big problems.
I'm not entirely sure if you were directing this towards me, however I'll bite. It seems to me you're just trying to spin the videos I located in a favorable light. One was a video where Batista oversold a shot from Mark Henry in an over-the-top rediculous fashion though that one ain't really bad. The other, however, is a spot with Booker T makes no sense, why would he sandbag him and then later change his mind and help him with it? As I showed in other videos, stranger things have happened with big guys like Batista, like Cena botching an AA/FU with Mysterio.

However, I think we are both in agreement that Botches happen, the videos were mainly substance to argue against alot of ignorant jive from several posters who are likely never going to change their opinions. I'm a big Ryback fan but I know that Ryback really needs to work on his cardio and stamina if he's going to make it in the main event. They are supposed to be booking him in longer matches on House Shows, however if that is true I can't be certain since no online sources record match length from house shows.

I hope it is true though, the guy needs it.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

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all the videos you posted, Batista, Lesnar, Cena, Edge were already over when they botched so that's not so tragic because they were no rookies and already impressed the fans before, that means you can not compare it with Ryback.
And people never really gave a fuck about Kozlov and Swagger, you can also not compare these two with Ryback.
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Neither one of those Batista vids were a botch. Batista and Book hate each other so that was probably a sandbag and Batista still muscled him up. The second one he just looks back to see if Cena is out of the way before bumping on top of him.

Botches aren't the reason Ryback sucks. The fact that he can't work a two minute squash without getting gassed, and the fact that he has a power gimmick and botches POWER moves is the reason he sucks. It's like Sin Cara botching all his high spots. If you can't hit what your character is noted for then you've got big problems.
It was one fucking time. He botched one power move in one match, and now all of a sudden he is a botch machine like Sin Cara.
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It was one fucking time. He botched one power move in one match, and now all of a sudden he is a botch machine like Sin Cara.
Plus, Tensai's pretty fat.

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all the videos you posted, Batista, Lesnar, Cena, Edge were already over when they botched so that's not so tragic because they were no rookies and already impressed the fans before, that means you can not compare it with Ryback.
And people never really gave a fuck about Kozlov and Swagger, you can also not compare these two with Ryback.
Alright, I was going to post more but then I realize I interpreted your post wrong. While new guys when they botch are put under the microscope, the point I was getting accross is that despite how readily fans get behind the likes of Brock and Batista, these guys have botched vastly worse than Ryback has. The point behind bringing up the botches is that, despite how big or powerful a guy can be, they can botch in the most rediculous fashion.

I've really got nothing against Brock, Batista, or most of those in the videos I posted, but people want to pretend like their favorite big men never botched clearly needed a reality check. I like Ryback, and perhaps now I'm realizing they didn't prepare him for televised matches. If they gave him 10 minute long matches before debuting him in squash matches, he might have been prepared to move much higher than he is now.

Though this is mostly hypothetical and an opinion, so who knows what would have happened otherwise. I still hope the guy keeps progressing and that creative doesn't suddenly derp on him.
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It was one fucking time. He botched one power move in one match, and now all of a sudden he is a botch machine like Sin Cara.
His match against Swagger was one big botch. That's 2 times in 4 weeks he's embarrassed himself on live tv. How many times does it have to happen before it stops being his opponents fault?
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

Rybacks credibility is done.

There's about 2 casuals that remember it!!!


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