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Cena > Ryback

Annihilus

Conspiracy Theory Time:

Cena and Tensai and probably friendly since they worked a program together and Cena even put him over... what if Cena is butthurt that Vince is trying to groom Ryback as his replacement, so he asked Tensai to sandbag him to make him look bad?

NathWFC

Lol this Tensai "sandbagging" excuse is a pile of shit. Ryback couldn't do it on the day because he's not strong enough to get it right every time. Fair enough he did it the other day, but getting him up looked like a struggle. Tonight he simply couldn't do it because he's not THAT powerful. I would imagine that he'd probably just about get him up 1 in every 5 or so attempts at best.

And please tell me that last sentence isn't some sort of desperate attempt to find an argument for Goldberg being no more powerful that Ryback. Goldberg makes Ryback look like a child power-wise.

AnalBleeding

this.

Theyre pushing Ryback to be the modern day Goldberg or Brock, but he isn't even close.

Goldberg has a higher bench press and squat than Ryback... and Brock's bench and squat is even higher than both of them.

NathWFC

Jotunheim

we know that by hearing skip sheffield

PunkShoot

That just proves Raw is as live as ever. Two huge botches literally just destroyed his credibility.

And not just ANY botches, Power move finisher botches.

ouch, and I really like ryback

SinJackal

While I'm all for ragging on guys for botching spots (especially power spots), I have to say I think you must have zero experience in lifting whatsoever if you think that how Ryback lifts guys up for that move is easy, or just as easy as lifting people in the typical fireman's carry or vertical suplex fashion (your F5 and Jackhammer comparisons)

Ryback's move is more difficult. He has less leverage the way he does it with more weight away from his body, and barely uses his legs.

If a near 400 pounder like Tensai doesn't assist with that move, it's extremely difficult to pull it off. Not like a fireman's carry or a powerbomb or a rock bottom where you can forcefully yank people into the moves fairly easily.

But yes, it was a botch and it was embarrassing. It was also obvious Tensai sandbagged him. Ryback also pulled the move off on him already on Smackdown. And on 2 people at once multiple times.

Ph3n0m

I dunno if it was a sandbagging... but I think Ryback certainly thought it was. He looked extremely angry at Tensai.

Watching the clip someone posted of him doing it on Smackdown though I think he might just have gone about it wrong. On Smackdown he put his head into Albert's arm (as if he was going to be DDTd), then put his shoulders right under his body almost like it was a fireman's carry lift. Tonight he tried to lift him differently like it was an Angle Slam, which I'd imagine as a dead lift like that is much harder (with or without his opponents help).

I dunno though, would like to see the Raw botch again before really deciding if it was a sabotage by the big fella or a technique issue.

AthenaMark

Stephanie is behind Ryback's push. We'll see what happens...especially if Albert gets the blame.

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