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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

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At the end of the day, to be a legit main eventer you have to be able to hit your finisher on all opponents, thats what all previous main eventers can do. Ryback couldn't do that, he just isn't ready for his push imo, he has to improve in so many areas.
So main eventers have to be 100% botchless to be legit? Ok then.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

How will Vince go about this? Another rematch in which Ryback does his finisher on Tensai twice in a row?
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At the end of the day, to be a legit main eventer you have to be able to hit your finisher on all opponents, thats what all previous main eventers can do. Ryback couldn't do that, he just isn't ready for his push imo, he has to improve in so many areas.
So Taker should have been able to do the tombstone on the Big Show to be a credible main eventer?
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So Taker should have been able to do the tombstone on the Big Show to be a credible main eventer?
No, but one could argue that a botch like this, so early on in one's career can be devastating to character development.

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So main eventers have to be 100% botchless to be legit? Ok then.
Of course they have to be, there's no botches In John Cnea

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No, but one could argue that a botch like this, so early on in one's career can be devastating to character development.
But he got a very good reaction from the crowd even though he won with a clothesline. And he was very over during the Punk promo. I think this showed how over he is. In spite of the fact the move was botched people behave as if nothing happened. It seems they like him a lot. If he keeps going like that, time will make this just a funny moment in his career.
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No, but one could argue that a botch like this, so early on in one's career can be devastating to character development.
But Ryback wasn't at fault so I fail to see why it should effect his career.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

There's so many people talking about that Tensai didn't jump, but neither did Brodus Clay when Cesaro lifted him, and Cesaro's lift was harder since he had his opponents center of gravity further from his body.
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There's so many people talking about that Tensai didn't jump, but neither did Brodus Clay when Cesaro lifted him, and Cesaro's lift was harder since he had his opponents center of gravity further from his body.
I think Ryback's lift was harder considering Cesaro mostly used his legs to take the weight.

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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

Brodus gets big credit on that move. Anyway, I don't care about Cesaro at all. I don't like his gimmick.
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