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Iormungand · 10-03-2012, 09:57 AM

Yeah, somehow I know once it happened on RAW this week that a bunch of pissy little losers with no life would flip their shit. Fact is Ryback did in fact lift Tensei, even if he did struggle, that was the first time he ever lifted a guy Tensei's size. Ever.

He'll need to make some adjustments before he's ready for the main event scene, I won't act like he was ready yet. Imagine if something like that happened at a PPV for the WHC? That would have been so much worse than it was on RAW. I know Ryback is physically capable of doing it. Ryback should have dealt with someone heavier than Jack Swagger, and lighter than Lord Tensei.

Such a jump I feel played a role on what transpired on RAW, but partly I feel there was some sandbagging because it seemed so surreal to do it one night, then the next night he fails? Of course many half-brained fucks here would love to ignore that if they could just pointlessly bitch up and down.

People gotta grow up, shit happens, I'll still count myself as a Ryback fan. Hell, I think I'll be buying a Ryback shirt one of these days, but anyhow. I don't entirely think it was entirely intentional, the 'botch' I mean.

**Karma101** · 10-03-2012, 10:09 AM

Yeh he doesn't seem like anything special, his only USP is that he's ridiculously strong so if he can't lift Tensai there are plenty of other people he can't lift.

**Lutece** · 10-03-2012, 10:20 AM

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At the end of the day, to be a legit main eventer you have to be able to hit your finisher on all opponents, thats what all previous main eventers can do. Ryback couldn't do that, he just isn't ready for his push imo, he has to improve in so many areas.

So main eventers have to be 100% botchless to be legit? Ok then.

razzathereaver · 10-03-2012, 10:26 AM

How will Vince go about this? Another rematch in which Ryback does his finisher on Tensai twice in a row?

JAROTO · 10-03-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantomdreamer

At the end of the day, to be a legit main eventer you have to be able to hit your finisher on all opponents, thats what all previous main eventers can do. Ryback couldn't do that, he just isn't ready for his push imo, he has to improve in so many areas.

So Taker should have been able to do the tombstone on the Big Show to be a credible main eventer?

LeapingLannyPoffo · 10-03-2012, 11:02 AM

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So Taker should have been able to do the tombstone on the Big Show to be a credible main eventer?

No, but one could argue that a botch like this, so early on in one's career can be devastating to character development.

kregnaz · 10-03-2012, 11:20 AM

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So main eventers have to be 100% botchless to be legit? Ok then.

Of course they have to be, there's no botches In John Cnea

JAROTO · 10-03-2012, 11:58 AM

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No, but one could argue that a botch like this, so early on in one's career can be devastating to character development.

But he got a very good reaction from the crowd even though he won with a clothesline. And he was very over during the Punk promo. I think this showed how over he is. In spite of the fact the move was botched people behave as if nothing happened. It seems they like him a lot. If he keeps going like that, time will make this just a funny moment in his career.

**Lutece** · 10-03-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LeapingLannyPoffo

No, but one could argue that a botch like this, so early on in one's career can be devastating to character development.

But Ryback wasn't at fault so I fail to see why it should effect his career.

Evil Peter · 10-03-2012, 12:08 PM

There's so many people talking about that Tensai didn't jump, but neither did Brodus Clay when Cesaro lifted him, and Cesaro's lift was harder since he had his opponents center of gravity further from his body.