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-Skullbone- · 10-03-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Annihilus

People are overlooking something.. Wrestling is tiring, a main eventer has to have cardio conditioning, not just mass, to be able to last through longer matches. Roidback looks like he's short of breath just from walking to the ring and can't even speak a sentence without breathing in the middle of it. If Ryberg is gassed after 5-6 minutes of wrestling with Tensai, that's why he couldnt pick him up, not because he's not strong enough or because Tensai necessarily sandbagged.

Lets not forget Albert is a pro and been in the business a long time, if anyone is going to botch i'll probably probably the green rookie he was in the ring with. So, the assertion that Albert sangbagged or the assertion that Roidback can't perform the move are both incorrect.

The real issue at hand is: Ryback does little else but inject steroids, lift heavy weights powerlifter-style and eat enough food to feed a small village. he has no cardio conditioning, hence after a couple minutes of aerobic activity, he's gassed and cant perform his own finishing move.

I wouldn't call Ryback a rookie. He was in OVW for five years wasn't he? Not to mention he got to wrestle a bit on the WWE platform before getting injured.

Goldberg was far off from being a workhorse as well but was terribly rough in his execution, particularly with his signatures. One key thing Ryback has over Goldberg is the fact he doesn't legitimately hurt people like the former did. That report saying he had done a number on the rookies was disproven. The thing that should be the company's priority is to ensure that the guy can get through a ten minute match MINIMUM so they can at least be assured he can meet that higher level they would want him to reach.

One thing that should be noted is the term "sandbag" does not ALWAYS refer to an intentional plan of action by the performer. It can mean how they miss their cue to jump, are out of sync with the other guy/girl, or are not offering enough physical support for the opponent to properly execute the move.

BULLY · 10-03-2012, 04:59 AM

So Tensai is broken down in the middle of nowhere. He calls Ryback and says "Listen bro you gotta help me my car won't start! I need to get home. Will you come drive over here and collect me?" Ryback thinks it over for a while, then replies "Sorry Tensai I can't pick you up"

Ignoramus · 10-03-2012, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister

He even struggled on SmackDown. He executed the move, but he was clearly straining to lift him.

Once again showing that he's a poor imitation. Goldberg would've lifted Tensai like he was a pillow.

Yeah, of course he was fucking struggling to lift him. He's 300lbs. Go to your local YMCA and try to lift a 16lbs dumbbell more than 15 times in a row. You're in for a treat.

GetStokedOnIt · 10-03-2012, 06:21 AM

They could have covered for it better IMO. Botches happen, but it would have looked better if they had about 10 seconds of back and forth after the first botch before Ryback going for the finisher again. Would have looked like Tensai had actually countered it rather than just falling off his shoulders.

Evil Peter · 10-03-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ignoramus

Yeah, of course he was fucking struggling to lift him. He's 300lbs. Go to your local YMCA and try to lift a 16lbs dumbbell more than 15 times in a row. You're in for a treat.

But Tinberg is supposed to be a powerhouse and you can't have your big powerhouse struggle with a move on someone like Tensai, when Cena lifts Big Show with more ease. The average viewer won't care/know that Cena's move is easier to perform either.

**JY57** · 10-03-2012, 07:39 AM

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...day_s_RAW.html

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- Vince McMahon was reportedly scrambling at Monday's RAW when Ryback failed to do his finisher on Tensai. Workers in the production truck were instructed to make him look as strong as possible with the replays.

source: PWInsider

typical Vince. Maybe I should check this match out

MethHardy · 10-03-2012, 07:48 AM

They cut the match out on hulu. Don't want people to see failback.

adrian_zombo · 10-03-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BULLY

So Tensai is broken down in the middle of nowhere. He calls Ryback and says "Listen bro you gotta help me my car won't start! I need to get home. Will you come drive over here and collect me?" Ryback thinks it over for a while, then replies "Sorry Tensai I can't pick you up"

repped

**Phantomdreamer** · 10-03-2012, 08:20 AM

At the end of the day, to be a legit main eventer you have to be able to hit your finisher on all opponents, thats what all previous main eventers can do. Ryback couldn't do that, he just isn't ready for his push imo, he has to improve in so many areas.

-Skullbone- · 10-03-2012, 08:58 AM

It's a shame that this is the instance where Vince is willing to go full out on building a star in a clearcut manner with none of his 2009-onward trademarked approach (push 'em, then depush 'em coz I don't like him now dammit). That means fully preserving the mystique of the monster, actually treading around weaknesses of the performer and turning them into strengths (make it appear that Ryback's limitation as a worker is, in fact, kayfabe POWR as he plows through guys in under seven minutes), which is unlike anything he's done for so many years, and dangle him around the ME occasionally to remind casuals of his placement.

Two problems though, Vinnie: Goldberg's been done already (and better, might I add) and people are already lining up to compare them. That slip-up is not a good start, so what will you do if people start pressuring the guy behind Ryback to keep making blues?

Alot of people are waiting for him to slip up because they hate bullshit.