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post #311 of 460 (permalink) Old 10-02-2012, 10:15 PM
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

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lol @ 90% of the people in this thread. for one tensai sandbagged because ryback did it on smackdown friday night. for two do you realize how hard his move actually is ?? i understand hes supposed to be a big powerhouse blahblahblah but still that shit is hard.
he sandbagged? maybe he was able to do it on smackdown and fucked up his back a little, but didn't feel it until he tried it again on raw. that's the only thing i could think of when it happened. in the end, all that matters is it was a trainwreck botch and everyone saw it. if it was on smackdown at least they could act like it never happened, but everyone saw it or will see a clip of it on youtube or somewhere. all these months of squash matches to build this momentum towards something big and he fucked it all up by this botch. amazing.
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It'd be easy to blame it on Tensai. A REAL powerhouse like Goldberg or Lesnar would have got Tensai up with ease regardless
100% bullshit. If someone the size of Tensai sandbags, it's a lot harder.

Furthermore - Ryback did lift him 3 days before it, so it wasn't a lack of strength or he wouldn't of done it then.

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Goldberg jackhammered Big Show, with delayed suplex. Effortlessly. Thats 500lbs in a move thats infinitely harder to execute.
Big Show didn't sandbag or he wouldn't of jackhammered a fucking thing. Fact.

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No he didn't. He worked to get a grip on it, and then lifted it very quickly and easily.

Amazing how some people love to hate on Ryback because he's "one dimensional" I guess. Goldberg was too, something people forget.

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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

He's too big for his body type. He wears extenders in his boots, and looks like bobby lashley having way too much roid muscle on a medium frame. But, as much as I hated lashley for having no personality nd sucking at wrestling at least he was athletic. Skippy just looks like he's going to hurt himself at any moment. It could have happened last night.
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100% bullshit. If someone the size of Tensai sandbags, it's a lot harder.

Furthermore - Ryback did lift him 3 days before it, so it wasn't a lack of strength or he wouldn't of done it then.



Big Show didn't sandbag or he wouldn't of jackhammered a fucking thing. Fact.



No he didn't. He worked to get a grip on it, and then lifted it very quickly and easily.

Amazing how some people love to hate on Ryback because he's "one dimensional" I guess. Goldberg was too, something people forget.
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People are overlooking something.. Wrestling is tiring, a main eventer has to have cardio conditioning, not just mass, to be able to last through longer matches. Roidback looks like he's short of breath just from walking to the ring and can't even speak a sentence without breathing in the middle of it. If Ryberg is gassed after 5-6 minutes of wrestling with Tensai, that's why he couldnt pick him up, not because he's not strong enough or because Tensai necessarily sandbagged.

Lets not forget Albert is a pro and been in the business a long time, if anyone is going to botch i'll probably probably the green rookie he was in the ring with. So, the assertion that Albert sangbagged or the assertion that Roidback can't perform the move are both incorrect.

The real issue at hand is: Ryback does little else but inject steroids, lift heavy weights powerlifter-style and eat enough food to feed a small village. he has no cardio conditioning, hence after a couple minutes of aerobic activity, he's gassed and cant perform his own finishing move.
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Did he perhaps use a crane on Smackdown? Looked like he could have gone for it a hundred times and failed every single time tonight. Needs to spend less time growing for show and start working on his strength conditioning.
This is pretty much it. Cena looks good but the guy has the bodybuilding background to back it up. Either something went wrong or Ryback needs to work on his core workout.


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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

It was either sandbagging on Tensai's part, or there was some miscommunication and shit like that.

And yeah, OP, you sound like some idiotic "still real to me dammit" viewer.

"A REAL POWERHOUSE LIKE GOLDBERG WOULD LIFT HIM UP..."

Yeah. I imagine that Ryback is stronger (not necessarily true, though).

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People are overlooking something.. Wrestling is tiring, a main eventer has to have cardio conditioning, not just mass, to be able to last through longer matches. Roidback looks like he's short of breath just from walking to the ring and can't even speak a sentence without breathing in the middle of it. If Ryberg is gassed after 5-6 minutes of wrestling with Tensai, that's why he couldnt pick him up, not because he's not strong enough or because Tensai necessarily sandbagged.

Lets not forget Albert is a pro and been in the business a long time, if anyone is going to botch i'll probably probably the green rookie he was in the ring with. So, the assertion that Albert sangbagged or the assertion that Roidback can't perform the move are both incorrect.

The real issue at hand is: Ryback does little else but inject steroids, lift heavy weights powerlifter-style and eat enough food to feed a small village. he has no cardio conditioning, hence after a couple minutes of aerobic activity, he's gassed and cant perform his own finishing move.
I wouldn't call Ryback a rookie. He was in OVW for five years wasn't he? Not to mention he got to wrestle a bit on the WWE platform before getting injured.

Goldberg was far off from being a workhorse as well but was terribly rough in his execution, particularly with his signatures. One key thing Ryback has over Goldberg is the fact he doesn't legitimately hurt people like the former did. That report saying he had done a number on the rookies was disproven. The thing that should be the company's priority is to ensure that the guy can get through a ten minute match MINIMUM so they can at least be assured he can meet that higher level they would want him to reach.

One thing that should be noted is the term "sandbag" does not ALWAYS refer to an intentional plan of action by the performer. It can mean how they miss their cue to jump, are out of sync with the other guy/girl, or are not offering enough physical support for the opponent to properly execute the move.

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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

So Tensai is broken down in the middle of nowhere. He calls Ryback and says "Listen bro you gotta help me my car won't start! I need to get home. Will you come drive over here and collect me?" Ryback thinks it over for a while, then replies "Sorry Tensai I can't pick you up"

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