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post #301 of 460 (permalink) Old 10-02-2012, 08:55 PM
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

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Ryback's problem is he doesn't have conditioning. He's big and jacked from all the steroid use, but having a lot of mass is not the same thing as being in good shape. To be a good wrestler you need to have good cardio conditioning so you still have gas left in the tank at the end of a 5-10 minute match.

Ryback looks like someone who just injects test and does some heavy low-rep-range lifting, and never does cardio. As a result, he sounds like he's short of breath just from walking down to the ring. And while he can function in short squash matches, he is gassed out after 5+ minutes of a real match to the point where he can't even lift his opponent.

This is pretty typical of steroid abusers, they get so much mass that it actually becomes a burden on them and they lack the conditioning to do any sort of aerobic exercise. With that in mind, is it any surprised he's so gassed after 5-10 minutes that he can't lift Tensai?
can't remember against who, but he had one match that lasted more than 5 minutes and he was breathing really hard by the end of it. how the hell can they push a guy who's gassed after a lengthy 5-10 minutes?
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i'm all for big men being pushed for the main event , because they are marketable and look legit and don't insult my intelligence when they hold the belt unlike how Miz held the belt for 200 days or so and was looked upon as the least credible title reign ever


HOWEVER , i'm all for big men who got REAL TALENT , like Brock Lesnar in 2002 , a big guy who can do all the craziest shit in the ring and even tho bulky as fuck he still is smooth in the ring , or Undertaker who is 6 ft tall and can fly out of the ring and is a master when it comes to telling a story ..

but guys like Rybotch or Mason Ryan or Great Khali are just plain stupid , horrible , dangerous to work with and should be kept away from the main event scene, especially when you're gimmick is a rip-off from another past wrestler's gimmick

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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

ryback's botches are like chum in the water. i was even starting to like him too sadly. i mean not really, but i was going to go along with it since vince is shoving him down our throats. i'm sure most could tell the guy can't wrestle right from the start and is just good in squash matches cuz how can anyone be bad in squash matches. no cardio and apparently not enough power as well. did i mention caveman type mic skills. yeah that's a real superstar in the making. i wonder if they will just continue pushing him like nothing ever happened or will he end up in the garbage heap like tensai?

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Re: Oh Dear Ryback...

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Ryback did it on Raw.

And do you know how hard it is to lift 300(estimate) pounds of human weight?
Goldberg jackhammered Big Show, with delayed suplex. Effortlessly. Thats 500lbs in a move thats infinitely harder to execute.
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Goldberg jackhammered Big Show, with delayed suplex. Effortlessly. Thats 500lbs in a move thats infinitely harder to execute.
I hope know that the Jackhammer requires a lot from the opponent to straighten up and maintain whilst hoisted in the air. Goldberg's biggest feat of strength is to bring them down into the powerslam in a fluent movement, which is hugely impressive to perform in conjunction with someone like Big Show.

The one thing that is a concern for Ryback (not really for me as I don't care for him) as pointed out is how much the first attempt appeared to take out of him to the point where he hit the wall on the second. He had Tensai hoisted but couldn't hit that reserve strength to keep the guy there and prop him up into position. It's looks as if he does need a lot more conditioning work to do if they hope to have him in some legitimate programs. One thing that should worry his fans is what else he has to fall back on in terms of specialty talents. Image is obviously his biggest asset, but what else is he good at that would have him be a mainstay in the ME picture? And don't say "management."


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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

I don't think you guys understand how incredibly hard it would be to lift someone in that way, the fact he did it once is AMAZING, end of story.

And for those comparing it to Cena lifting Big Show on his shoulders you are stupid as all fuck. A firemans carry is thousands times easier than lifting the way Ryback does.

He has to both lift them higher, it takes much more power AND he has to use his power to balance them on his shoulders.
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I don't think you guys understand how incredibly hard it would be to lift someone in that way, the fact he did it once is AMAZING, end of story.

And for those comparing it to Cena lifting Big Show on his shoulders you are stupid as all fuck. A firemans carry is thousands times easier than lifting the way Ryback does.

He has to both lift them higher, it takes much more power AND he has to use his power to balance them on his shoulders.
fireman's carry with big show and edge on top of big show is much easier than picking up tensai with ryback's move? he never even got tensai more than 2 feet off the ground and that's probably 250-300 pounds less than show with edge on his back. his whole character is that he's a beast like lesnar and batista, but apparently he's a pussy. as soon as those two failed attempts were over he was no longer ryback to me. he reverted back to being a nobody named skip sheffield. maybe if he grabbed another couple subway subs he could have gotten tensai up.

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fireman's carry with big show and edge on top of big show is much easier than picking up tensai with ryback's move? he never even got tensai more than 2 feet off the ground and that's probably 250-300 pounds less than show with edge on his back. he's whole character is that he's a beast like lesnar and batista, but apparently he's a pussy.
One, a firemans carry IS much easier. The lift up is much easier, the holding is much easier, but obviously the throw is harder. Cena is a fucking beast himself and I'm not denying it.

Two, Ryback did actually lift Tensai up, it was on Smackdown.

The problem is that Rybacks finisher is so much harder to do than an AA or a sit down powerbomb, and even an F5, and Ryback, pound for pound, is definitely not as strong as Lesnar. No one is.

If you really want to argue that Ryback's finisher is the easiest of all well known power moves used by the famous power wrestlers then you're very mistaken.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

lol @ 90% of the people in this thread. for one tensai sandbagged because ryback did it on smackdown friday night. for two do you realize how hard his move actually is ?? i understand hes supposed to be a big powerhouse blahblahblah but still that shit is hard.
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Re: Oh Dear Ryback... [the botches]

hmm I actually believe RyBotch isn't as strong as he looks,he struggled to lift that leather couch on 'MizTV' few weeks ago and probably Wade Barrett or Cesaro would of been able to do that to Tensai, and anyone think RyBotch looked legit pissed off because he knew Albert sandbagged?
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