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Old 09-25-2012, 08:00 PM   #121 (permalink)
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How come a guy like Kofi can't come out in a pink boom shirt and cut a promo thanking the fans for their support? Why can't Sin Cara and Rey wear matching pink attires with the Komen logo on

Hate to say it, but it seems like the new desperate attempt to get Cena over. Much like Make a Wish/Support the troops.
Why do you think Dolph's awesome pink shirt is suddenly now black ?

I use to find it funny how desperate they used his charity image and the troops stuff to try and get him over, using something like Cancer though ? too fucking far in my book
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:03 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Every time he gets more boos than cheers in the most hostile smarky cities like Chicago at extreme rules or Montreal two weeks ago where he got " you can't wrestle" and "fuck you chants" he goes off on a tangent and then kisses the crowds ass and they begin to give him a 95% positive reaction.
That's become his life in WWE basically, so he's gotten used to it. I'm sure he's even gotten pointers from guys past and present in WWE history about how to deal with crowds(I'm sure even The Rock gave him pointers on it).

Isn't this basically what The Rock did alot of too? When people booed him, he could do a promo and people start cheering, or he could get lots of cheers, and instantly make the crowd boo him afterwards.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:47 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Why do you think Dolph's awesome pink shirt is suddenly now black ?

I use to find it funny how desperate they used his charity image and the troops stuff to try and get him over, using something like Cancer though ? too fucking far in my book
How pathetic and deluded are you?
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:53 PM   #124 (permalink)
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if you believe that Rock needed pandering to the crowd in order to get over , then you're beyond delusional , and at this point you're schizophrenic

they started cheering for Rock ever since he was a heel in 1999 , hey used to shit all over them and they continued to cheer him and sing along with his catchphrases

did The Rock ever say shit like "Frezno is on Fire tonight" or did he ever compare a wrestling feud to a Basketball contract signing just to get the crowd sympathy ?

even if he did , he never needed it .. while Cena comes off as pathetic and shameless pandering

so please , save some face and don't compare Rock's automatic overness with the crowd in every state back in his prime with Cena's desperate shtick , that Montreal promo was brown nosing at it's best

the phrase "Finally .. The rock has come back to [inset city here]" is more of self gloating than pandering , it's like "Finally i'm gracing you all with my presence" , he used it first as a heel but the crowd loved it and he continued with it , what's the logic in stopping it ?

don't make yourself look like a dumbass by saying statements like this, next thing you'll say is that JR never wore a black hat
pretty much what a true Face means, yes, Face's job it's to get people cheering for them, but the rock and austin never needed to pander and brown nose anything nor anybody to get over, period, anyone who believes the contrary and support Cena's pathetic and miserable pandering (to the point of extreme with the cancer shit) it's beyond delusional
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:49 PM   #125 (permalink)
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How pathetic and deluded are you?
Pretty damn justified, I can get trying to get support to Cancer, I really can. But John Cena ironically is the only guy that has merch for sale specifically molded around his existing merch, his existing gimmick, while no one else has this. The only thing to feature a anti-breast cancer message anything close to John Cena's 'Rise above Cancer' shirt, is the damned ring and ramp.

Someone pointed out that no other face or heel has any such...except maybe Rey Mysterio, I swore I saw him recently with a pink mask but not sure if it was just pink or if it was a charity thing. Either way, if Sheamus, Orton, and a handful of others had special 'Breast Cancer Awareness' merchandise, maybe people wouldn't be accusing John Cena or Creative as using it as a tool to get more fan support behind John Cena.

The closest comparisson would be the new Jerry Lawler shirts after he suffered with a heart attack, but that was more for support and they are not bad looking shirts.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:30 PM   #126 (permalink)
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That's become his life in WWE basically, so he's gotten used to it. I'm sure he's even gotten pointers from guys past and present in WWE history about how to deal with crowds(I'm sure even The Rock gave him pointers on it).

Isn't this basically what The Rock did alot of too? When people booed him, he could do a promo and people start cheering, or he could get lots of cheers, and instantly make the crowd boo him afterwards.
I remeber whenever The Rock got booed the WWE never showed video packages of him visiting sick children or with the troops and they actually added depth to his character and turned him heel.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:39 PM   #127 (permalink)
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I remeber whenever The Rock got booed the WWE never showed video packages of him visiting sick children or with the troops and they actually added depth to his character and turned him heel.
1.WWE may not have had this idea back then

2.Linda is running for Senate

3.WWE actually had replacements.Rock had the benefit of being heel since Austin was available as a face for almost all his heel runs.

When Austin was heel,he didn't have Rock as a face.Austin had to be the heel to faces who weren't in his league.That's why his heel run in 2001 wasn't successful compared to his revolutionary heel run in 1997.

Who does Cena have?
Punk,Sheamus or Orton?
Maybe WWE doesn't want to turn Cena heel until there is a wrestler on his level.Unfortunately,this will take some more years
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:58 PM   #128 (permalink)
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No, cheering the heel more than booing him means he sucks as a heel, what kind of a heel that gets more cheers. Guys like Trips, Edge, Austin, Rock, Batista, Punk these guys got mixed reactions and get their name chanted that's fine but getting cheers is . You don't know what the word "heel" means.

No I'm talking about Cena in the last 10 years, until now he's the most pushed guy. Defeating guys like Trips, Batista, Michaels, Orton, Edge, Lesnar, Taker, Angle, etc. and every midcarder and upper midcarder in the past years. Punk was a WWE midcarder champion, and Cena was maineventing every week, it doesn't matter who he faced, he was the focus all along. When Punk started the Respect angle, he became a constant draw and been the focus of the show. Punk only defeated few big stars, that's one of the reason why he isn't drawing big, and many wasn't even fair wins. So many times that Kurt Angle, Benoit, Trips, Taker, Michaels, Kane, Jericho, Foley etc. were on Rocky and Austin level of booking/position and it wasnt all about those two. They had the chance to mainevent over them on so many occasions. Be more respectful next time, whether I like it or not, no I don't like it because he's over pushed, overrated, and generic. Hogan, Austin, Rocky, hell even Batista and Edge were bigger draws in 2005 and 2006 where they got higher ratings than Cena ever did as champs. So, he isn't something special, he's just overrated. Punk outsold Cena for 6 months more than anyone and still going toe to toe with Cena.

Punk is a heel what do you expect him to do? What does that have to do with the IWC. That what heels do, man grow up. Cena sucking up to the fans big time to get sympathy from them is okay, but hey it's a crime for Punk to do it even when he doesn't.
Okay, I already told you that I prefer heels to get cheers instead of boos if the heel was entertaining, whether you agree or disagree, I don't care, it's your opinion and every one has an opinion.
Punk has been given the greatist push, and that's breaking kayfabe in most of his promos, not to mention his shoot to the company, Vince gave him the best push he can dream of. And the only reason he wasn't in the main event because he couldn't draw, you don't need to be in the main event to prove yourself as a draw, you need to prove yourself as a draw to be in the main event, and punk even in the main event can't draw, he's worst the worst drawitn champion since 10 or 15 years.(And yeas, whether you believe it or not).
You're talking about Cena defeating these superstars, but what about punk defeating Cena, the biggest star right now, and don't tell me it wasn't clean, please, MITB was clean, plus Cena had ever defeated punk except that irrelevant victory in raw which wasn't clean if you consider MITB not clean and the only reason punk lost in that match was because he had feud with Kevin Nash and HHH. He also defeated Jericko who was credible during his feud with punk. And he'll soon face The Rock, He has been given the biggest push since a very long time and he's not going to be the face of the company to decerve this push, so he has been given a big push whether you like believe it or not.
funny, you say when punk started the respect angle he has been a draw, while this week raw draw one of the worst(if not the worst) rating. He is the worst champion since Diesel, deal with it.
You're telling me to be more respectful because I told you whether you like it or not while most your posts contain insulting and bad mouthing? I mean it's not like what I said was disrespectful, but if you have such a thin skin why don't you watch your mouth first?
And yes, your opinion doesn't matter whether you like it or not, you said you hate Cena even if he turns heel, well, who cares about your opinion, your opinion is irrelevent so is mine, so I don't know what made you feel so disrespected.
Every time in every single discussion you reach the same point and you repeat your point over and over again, whether it's with me or other member, you always keep repeating the same fucking thing over and over again, I told you numerous times that I disagree with you and that our opinion is different, and I have no problem in stating your opinion, but don't fucking repeat the same thing in every reply to me, and I disagree with you, Batista and Edge were not bigger draw than Cena and I'm sure other members told you that too, because I have seen your posts before, and I don't really care if you think I'm right of not, after all, it's your opinion not mine.(Everyone has an opinion).
Again, you think Cena is overrated, but I don't, I think punk is overrated.(See? it's matter of an opinion).
Also LOL at punk outsold Cena for 6 months and going toe to toe with Cena.
I also explained punk's sucking up to the crowd, there's no need to repeat it every time.

Do you know how it does feel debating with you? OK. I'll give an example:
Me: This movie sucks, I didn't like the acting, the storyline etc. The other one is better.
You: No, I think this is the best movie, everything is perfect about it, best acting, best storyline. In fact the movie you like sucks,everything about it is awful.
Me: But I think this movie sucks and the other is better.
You: But this movie is better than the movie you love, the movie you love is overrated, this movie is the best at everything.
Me: But that's your opinion, in my opinion,I think this movie sucks and the other one is better.
You: No, this movie is better, the othet one sucks.
Me: I don't think so.
You: Yes, you better think so.
Me: I don't want to think so.
you: Yes, you need to think so.
Me: No.
You: Yes.
Me: No.
You: Yes.
Me: No.
You: Yes.
...................... To be continued.


debationg with you is pointless, because everyone of us has different opinions, and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you keep repeating the same thing over and over again, then it's really getting annoying.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:00 PM   #129 (permalink)
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see, this is where you are exposed as a troll, explain to me why characters like Eve, miz, otunga are doing Be A star campaigns then.....what's the reasoning behind JUST cena wearing pink but not every single face out there not doing so?, I mean according to your reasoning, only faces should promote breast cancer awareness...
Care to read the posts before throwing false accusations, please.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:19 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Of all the "Cena Sucks" threads, this has to be the saddest one yet. Cena using cancer to make himself look better? Wow, his haters are a sad bunch of human beings.
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