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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#1,281 · (Edited)
I'm prepping myself for the worst...

... thing is, I still wouldn't be okay with HHH ending the streak. A Cena/HHH heel alliance can still happen and be just as effective whether HHH ends the streak or not. If it's a fear of whether HHH will get booed or not that would make them have him end the streak, just listen to the reaction the crowd gave him after he said "THIS WILL ALL BE MINE!" He's still capable of getting heat with the right lines, and that's all they'd need to do.

Of course, I'm one of those few who's against anyone ending the streak who won't gain anything from it, not just HHH (and I mean that in relation to the whole debate "Should a younger guy end the streak who gain a lot from it, or should a legend end the streak which would be more fitting, but won't really do anything for that legend). Besides, if a Cena/HHH alliance did happen and they had Taker keep the streak this year, it would be the perfect set-up for Taker/Cena next year.
 
#1,282 ·
Been updating the ratings I have as hadn't updated it since December. Some 2012 stats so far:

RAW
- 1 out of 7 episodes have averaged over 5 million (compared with 2 out of 7 for last year)
- No episodes have averaged under 4 million, although the January 9th episode was dangerously close with 4.002 million.
- RAW is currently averaging lower than this time last year - 4.47 million for this year compared with 4.86 million for the first 7 episodes last year an decrease of 0.39 million.
- Rather worrying though is when you compare the 4.47 million average with 2010, the first 7 episodes in 2010 averaged 5.31 million, so they've lost nearly 1 million viewers in two years. And that was when they had TNA competition on Monday's...

SmackDown
- 5 out of 6 episodes have averaged over 3 million
- The only episode to average under 3 million was on January 6th with 2.59 million
- SmackDown is currently averaging higher than this time last year - 3.11 million for this year compared with 2.99 million for the first 6 episodes last year an increase of 0.12 million.

Ignoring RAW's drop for a second and looking at SmackDown's 0.12 million increase. Is that down to Daniel Bryan as champion or the fact that SmackDown superstars are being featured on RAW? I think the latter, RAW is helping SmackDown.

BUT is that hurting RAW? Ignoring who is or who is not champion, is the overlap actually hurting RAW's viewership and hurting WWE's ability to develop new stars? If you don't like SmackDown then you may be put off watching RAW because SmackDown wrestlers on there (or if you are unable to receive Syfy for instance). This is a point beyond the weekly breakdowns but is SmackDown stars being on RAW hurting their ability to develop new stars for RAW and in the process hurting the ratings?
 
#1,289 ·
HHH is not staying after WM, just like last year, Cena is not turning heel and there's no reason to end the streak no matter what, especially not HHH who doesn't need it at all. If you can make a clone with Rock's charisma, Rock's look, Hogan's marketability, Angle's wrestling, Austin's badassness? then MAYBE we can talk about it.
 
#1,291 · (Edited)
So let me get this straight you think the WWE's solution to the ratings is going to be to change absolutely NOTHING? Cause that would be a super idea, after WM having HHH go off TV again and go back to the same old sotryline of Cena "overcoming" random heel # 46598759867 they've been putting on TV for the past 6 years.
 
#1,295 ·
I agree that that is the most likely scenerio but my point is none of us KNOW for a FACT whats going to happen. And really to me the purpose of the forums is to discuss things like this that would be awesome to see, not to just post a repeat of what has already happened or what the newsletters and dirtsheets say, b/c IMO this place would be pretty boring if thats all it was.
 
#1,299 ·
Don't even think you need to be that drastic. That company is dying for freshness and something new. It's pretty simple really. They need to shake shit up and have some new decision makers. Vince doesn't need to retire fully but I honest to God think we'd see such a difference from top to bottom if he started letting HHH or whoever the fuck is going to start running things actually start running things.
 
#1,300 ·
Back to ratings, who do you think is finally going to bring the "big 4.0"? I'm not even talking about overall after this horrendous rating, just a segment. Maybe Taker when he's there on RAW next week. They got crazy star power in March 5 from Boston, Rock, Taker, HBK, HHH and 99% Shaq, + Boston is usually a good crowd. I was going to predict a 4.0 overall for this but again, after this week's number? can't see that, WWE is too irrelevant now.
 
#1,303 ·
They'll get there when they have more than HHH/Taker to work with. Right now they're suffering because they have nothing to bring the overall viewership higher. If they have HHH/Taker, Shaq and Rock/Cena, I have no doubt that maybe even all 3 could reach a 4.0 for their individual segments and obviously higher than that as the numbers in the past have proven. If the overall viewership for this weeks show had have been the same as last week, I think the HHH/HBK segment would have hit 4.0. Like I said, the overall shitty performance is hurting them. We seen it before with Rock. His appearance on his birthday show and the overall was only a 3.2 or whatever it was. It takes more than just one guy and one angle to pull big numbers like that.
 
#1,304 · (Edited)
IF they are going to pull a 4.0 at all its going to be the March 5th show from Boston, they will have all the star power available to them (minus Stone Cold) on that show. Other than that maybe the Raw's before Mania and after Mania could draw rating close to 4.0

I just hope the shows going forward are more like the show they put on TV this past monday (eventhoguh the ratings didn't reflect it the show was acutally pretty entertaining) rather then like the Raw the week before that was full of video packages and recaps.
 
#1,305 ·
I just don't see it, Rock is coming back in the 27 RAW, if next week is a 3.1-3.2 or something like that, what he can do to bring this up to a 3.7-3.8? It's almost impossible today. The audience might not be there, they drove them away with their terrible roster and bland show concept, The last 4.0 was for Rock's segment in Boston, after that you need to go all the way back to the 4.1 on Rock's birthday(overall was 3.5 BTW). Shaq can be a big factor in this if he's even close to Floyd and his star power. If it's the same situation as last year with million viewers turn off after a big segment? it's impossible today. They did a 4.02 last year in the second hour of RAW in Chicago BTW.
 
#1,311 ·
Yes, if they had another big segment? easily a 4.0, because in the first hour they did 3.56, now if Taker/HBK/HHH was the opener then a big name in 10pm slot then Rock/Cena/Miz? 4.0-4.1. I wonder if Austin is going to be on RAW in March, he can do a promo on Taker's streak after his short segment with HHH last year WM. Austin is still huge as a TV draw. Or maybe a promo with Rock? Would be awesome to see them in a real segment again with a mic in the ring.
 
#1,314 ·
Ending the streak at WM 28 will effect Rock/Cena match in a bad way since it's the main event
i mean the crowd will be shocked..unless if Taker/HHH match is the main event and i don't see this happening.
 
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