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Old 02-02-2012, 01:14 PM   #981 (permalink)
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But the first match did only gain .......my bad it was 42k
2nd match got wait a minute........ 222k
A 3K DIFFERENCE YOU CARE ABOUT????????
So I am not trolling just stating facts
Didn't even say the are drawing more just more appealing
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250, 222 whatever, Miz was terrible but still, if you put them side by side, Miz wins easily. I know you're not a fan of Edge but 2006-2007 he was a great TV draw, embarrassing to put him in a group with Miz, let alone the other two.

And for this thread in general, the RAW with drew a 4.0(3.95)with 5.76 million viewers.

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Old 02-02-2012, 01:44 PM   #984 (permalink)
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OK let me get this straight....

Punk/Bryan gain 210,000 viewers = weak gain for that timeslot, WWE should worry about that but;

Orton/Ziggler lose 580,000 viewers (in Orton's retrun to Raw) = No big deal that timeslot always loses viewers nothing to worry about.

Excuse me for having trouble understanding this

(Also please don't misinterpret this as Orton hate, b/c its not, I have no dislike for Orton just trying to get an understanding on the "logic" (or lack there of) here)
It's not always about hating. Whether it was Orton or somebody else, Q2 always loses viewers. The 10pm time slot on the other hand is supposed to be a big gainer. Well, it used to be a big gainer. In recent months though without having a legit top drawing star to put in that spot, it has been hit or miss. Punk is hit or miss in general but especially in the 10pm slot where he's had some abysmal showings. He's also had some decent to good showings as well. It really depends on what he's doing. This time around, the match with Bryan gained 200k+ which is great but for that particular time slot, it's not so great. That's all people are saying.
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Why are people surprised or feel that it is an accomplishment for a WWE Champion vs World Heavyweight Champion to draw 210k viewers? Has the bar been set so low on Punk and Bryan? This is a match against (kayfabe) arguably the top two stars right now on WWE.
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It's not always about hating. Whether it was Orton or somebody else, Q2 always loses viewers. The 10pm time slot on the other hand is supposed to be a big gainer. Well, it used to be a big gainer. In recent months though without having a legit top drawing star to put in that spot, it has been hit or miss. Punk is hit or miss in general but especially in the 10pm slot where he's had some abysmal showings. He's also had some decent to good showings as well. It really depends on what he's doing. This time around, the match with Bryan gained 200k+ which is great but for that particular time slot, it's not so great. That's all people are saying.
I am not trying to argue that the gain for Punk/Bryan match was great, its an ok gain but its not a GREAT gain by any stretch. My point here is I don't get why people are more worried about a 210,000 gain in viewers more so than a 588,000 viewer loss (regardless of timeslot) for who is supposedly their 2nd (or 3rd) biggest star?
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OK let me get this straight....

Punk/Bryan gain 210,000 viewers = weak gain for that timeslot, WWE should worry about that but;

Orton/Ziggler lose 580,000 viewers (in Orton's retrun to Raw) = No big deal that timeslot always loses viewers nothing to worry about.

Excuse me for having trouble understanding this

(Also please don't misinterpret this as Orton hate, b/c its not, I have no dislike for Orton just trying to get an understanding on the "logic" (or lack there of) here)
Certain timeslots do better than others. WWE understands this and that's why they book accordingly. They know there's a certain percentage of viewers that will leave after the opening segment and then come back to watch the conclusion of the show. They know that the 10 PM quarter will do better than the 9:45 quarter.

That's why you can't hate on the person in Q2 for losing those viewers, and it's why gaining 200,000 viewers can be misleading.

If the 10PM segment typically garners a 4.2 and it only got 3.9 rating then adding 250,000 viewers isn't saying much.

That's why you should take internet poster's view of the ratings with a grain of salt unless they can back it up. Not intended to be a Punk/ Bryan bashing post either. The show averaged 5 mil and I'm sure WWE would take that.

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I am not trying to argue that the gain for Punk/Bryan match was great, its an ok gai nbut its not a GREAT gain by any stretch. My point here is I don't get why people are more worried about a 210,000 gain in viewers more so than a 588,000 viewer loss (regardless of timeslot) for who is supposedly their 2nd (or 3rd) biggest star?
Orton is not a star, he's projected as one and he's very popular, but has never been a draw (which is mindblowing considering he's been given fucking everything ever) and yeah he's always put in segments that always lose viewers, why do you think that is?
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Why are people surprised or feel that it is an accomplishment for a WWE Champion vs World Heavyweight Champion to draw 210k viewers? Has the bar been set so low on Punk and Bryan? This is a match against (kayfabe) arguably the top two stars right now on WWE.
I touched upon it in my other post but I think we've become so used to the 10pm slot doing so badly over the past year that any gain at all is praised lol. Given how utterly shit some segments/matches have done in recent months, a lot of them including Punk mind you, I think it's a positive sign that viewership went up, even if it wasn't some astronomical number. Were it WHC Batista vs. WWE Champ John Cena I think we'd all be expecting HUGE gains. But it wasn't. It was WHC Bryan vs. WWE Champ Punk. Both of them are making strides in terms of being legit drawing stars but they aren't there yet.

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I am not trying to argue that the gain for Punk/Bryan match was great, its an ok gai nbut its not a GREAT gain by any stretch. My point here is I don't get why people are more worried about a 210,000 gain in viewers more so than a 588,000 viewer loss (regardless of timeslot) for who is supposedly their 2nd (or 3rd) biggest star?
Because Orton has never really been able to draw on his own without some form of help and because every single person in Q2 has lost viewers apart from Rock in the past year. Orton losing viewers isn't news or a big deal. In fact, I can't remember the last time he gained viewers on Raw tbh. Granted, he hasn't had a storyline and has just been in random matches but still, he isn't a ratings powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination. Over as fuck? Absolutely. A legit draw? Not on your life and I say all that as a huge Orton mark. When he was white hot back in mid 2010 business didn't move at all.
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Champion v champion match really isn't that special anyways. Nothing is ever at stake, it's only about bragging rights and usually ends in some kind of interference.
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