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Old 02-02-2012, 03:09 AM   #971 (permalink)
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Have to chime in and say, several heavy-duty wrestling fans I know are tuning in religiously now rather than looking at YouTube vids of the shows because of Bryan's push. I always knew he'd be a very solid draw with hardcore wrestling fans if WWE opted to get behind him with all of their might (and because of what we know about the details regarding Vince McMahon actually calling him back up to re-hire him after the firing from Tiegate in summer 2010, I was rather optimistic they would). As difficult as it may be for some to admit, Bryan is proving to be a consistent ratings draw and WWE is not going to hurt one iota from pushing him. As a matter of fact, the opposite has quite plainly been proven to be true.

On the other end of the spectrum, though, WWE needs to create a blueprint with which to work when it comes to Dolph Ziggler. The guy sweats talent in the ring, and can be one of the most reliable hands on the entire roster on any night, but their shoddy handling of him thus far has possibly damaged him with many fans, particularly more casual ones, for a long while. His segments almost never do well unless he's crowded in with guys like Punk, Foley, Johnny Ace, etceteras, etceteras. That half-a-million off-of-a-cliff free fall drop is alarming. 'Course, it's also the latest piece of evidence for why Orton, for all of his abilities, is completely unable to pull anybody up. CM Punk, Mark Henry and Daniel Bryan sincerely seem more capable of that right now than Orton does coming back after a month's absence from Raw. That hurts.

Strong rating and viewership number, regardless. And as far as the overrun goes, sure, Undertaker's return with his looong entrance should have helped to spike that just a tad, but it's truthfully night and day to compare it with The Rock on Valentine's Day last year. Not only was there a week's worth of hype and buzz and speculation over who the host of Wrestlemania XXVII might be, with the most desired choice overall being The Rock by a wide margin, but The Rock--a certified movie star and worldwide-known celebrity--was appearing on Raw for the first time in seven years. Add to all of that that his overrun went on for the better part of half an hour and people honestly had ample time to find him there, unveiling the "Fruity Pebbles" moniker for Cena and creating an earthquake in Anaheim, CA with his presence. Taker's not Rock anyway, but it's very difficult to compare this to Rock's return. It's still a damned good overrun number, regardless.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:28 AM   #972 (permalink)
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Taker's return, unlike any Rock appearance, wasn't advertised nor hyped.
When the Rock appears, people know he will so they tune in, but in Taker's case, no one had a clue he's coming back.
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You have to also consider commercials, some quarters had only one and some had two. Im pretty sure Quarter 3 ( Orton/Ziggler ) had two. That always put a dent on things.

I think 5.7 million viewers is really good for the opening. Shouldnt just stare at the actual rating. Remember back in 2007 they did a overall 4.2 rating but "only" 5.5 million viewers. Its a different time now. This would have probably done a higher rating a few years back.
A HH rating stands for households and has nothing to do with the viewership.
4.17 in 2007 = 3.933.000 households. In 2012 Raw would need 4.190.000 households to get a 4.17 Rating.
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Last WWE champ vs WHC champ Edge vs Miz at the 10pm slot gained 50k

So at least we know that Bryan/Punk are way more appealing that the Hall of fame joke and funny face
If you want to be specific, Edge/Miz was two weeks in a row and in their second match they gained about 250k and Meltzer said it was terrible...You're trolling here or really think that Punk/Bryan are bigger draws than Edge? Wow. I'm not even going to explain why on Edge because it's too ridiculous, but even Miz who was a terrible drawing champion did much better than Punk, not even close. and Bryan? he's working with two proven TV draws on SD, when he's on RAW, we saw what he's doing, breaking records from 97 and losing on every show, proven draw? lol.

And the only reason Orton lost viewers because he is in the second quarter, no matter what he was doing, there's not one person who gained viewers in that time slot for over a year except The Rock. No reason to analyze it at all if you're looking at every RAW breakdown since 2011(talking in general to the people in this thread)

I agree on Miz BTW, I said it about his facial expressions even when everybody wanted him in the WM main event.

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Old 02-02-2012, 05:18 AM   #976 (permalink)
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So let's see Punk/Bryan/Johnny/Sheamus starts the show off and gets the highest rating, and the second highest rating other than the overrun was the punk/bryan match? Hmmmmm..
The opening and overrun tend to be the highest rated segments regardless.


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Taker's return, unlike any Rock appearance, wasn't advertised nor hyped.
When the Rock appears, people know he will so they tune in, but in Taker's case, no one had a clue he's coming back.
That's a good point, Undertaker's return would've probably been more highly rated had people known he was going to appear. Returns seem better when they're unannounced, but fewer people will be watching to see it.
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If you want to be specific, Edge/Miz was two weeks in a row and in their second match they gained about 250k and Meltzer said it was terrible...You're trolling here or really think that Punk/Bryan are bigger draws than Edge? Wow. I'm not even going to explain why on Edge because it's too ridiculous, but even Miz who was a terrible drawing champion did much better than Punk, not even close. and Bryan? he's working with two proven TV draws on SD, when he's on RAW, we saw what he's doing, breaking records from 97 and losing on every show, proven draw? lol.

And the only reason Orton lost viewers because he is in the second quarter, no matter what he was doing, there's not one person who gained viewers in that time slot for over a year except The Rock. No reason to analyze it at all if you're looking at every RAW breakdown since 2011(talking in general to the people in this thread)

I agree on Miz BTW, I said it about his facial expressions even when everybody wanted him in the WM main event.
But the first match did only gain .......my bad it was 42k
2nd match got wait a minute........ 222k
A 3K DIFFERENCE YOU CARE ABOUT????????
So I am not trolling just stating facts
Didn't even say the are drawing more just more appealing
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OK let me get this straight....

Punk/Bryan gain 210,000 viewers = weak gain for that timeslot, WWE should worry about that but;

Orton/Ziggler lose 580,000 viewers (in Orton's retrun to Raw) = No big deal that timeslot always loses viewers nothing to worry about.

Excuse me for having trouble understanding this

(Also please don't misinterpret this as Orton hate, b/c its not, I have no dislike for Orton just trying to get an understanding on the "logic" (or lack there of) here)
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Do we know if Bryan/Punk gained viewers and if so how many?
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Do we know if Bryan/Punk gained viewers and if so how many?
Yeah it gained about 220k and had over 5 million viewers. Which is great number and it would be silly to deny that.
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