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Old 12-15-2012, 02:08 AM   #8841 (permalink)
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Yeah, and ratings have never decreased in such a rapid pace as they have in the past few months. So whatever.
And this is what a lot of people don't seem to be taking on board with all this 'ignore the ratings, just enjoy the show' bullshit.

The majority of us can't be that enthusiastic about the show anymore because it's shit. Blame the 3 hours, blame Punk's stale never ending title reign, blame Super Cena and Super Sheamus, blame whatever the hell you want. But it's still shit. Badly written and extremely poorly booked shit, about 95% of the time now. The people who are still really enjoying everything/most things they're watching on Raw are in a minority nowadays and the sooner they realise that, the better.

The apologists' excuses for the ratings just aren't working anymore. You can't compare Raw losing ratings to shows like American Idol/X Factor because they're 2 different things that cater (or at least, have traditionally catered) to a different audience)...it's like comparing apples and oranges. Then there's the fact that the raw ratings haven't just 'steadily decreased' this year...they've plummeted like a stone.

The ratings are important because they're the only thing that will potentially make that senile old bastard Vinnie Mac see sense and improve Raw. I watch this thread, always hoping for low ratings after a piss poor show (which is usually every week now) just in the hope that Vince will get a kick up the ass and make proper changes. That is probably the biggest reason of all that I bother with the Ratings thread.

People who say the ratings are unimportant....does it not bother you how badly things have gotten recently, with people switching off in droves, the increased complaints online and things like a recent Smackdown taping in WWE's home state of Connecticut that could barely draw a TNA level crowd? There's only so many times you can bury your heads in the sand.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:17 AM   #8842 (permalink)
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3 hours is the cancer, ratings is the victim.

and this week's raw was nothing special either, promos were cheesy and wrestling might be good but it was boring,noting new.
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We will just have to see what happens when Mark, Rock, HHH, Brock, and maybe Taker return. If WWE is still losing viewers then there is a problem, if the ratings get a bump and then dip when they leave again, well WWE should take notes. Cena ain't gonna hold up for long.
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No, what the WWE should do is no have to rely on the returns of the legends past their prime to get ratings up. Create a more engaging show overall and boom. It's easy to understand. All we need them to do is apply it. Won't happen overnight, but laying the foundation now is better than later. Or not at all.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:45 AM   #8845 (permalink)
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What WWE has to do is creating stars who are capable to draw, not relying on The Rock, Lesnar, Taker, HHH anymore.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:03 AM   #8846 (permalink)
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the 3 hour shows are not cutting it, and it could create a major problem for wwe
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No, what the WWE should do is no have to rely on the returns of the legends past their prime to get ratings up. Create a more engaging show overall and boom. It's easy to understand. All we need them to do is apply it. Won't happen overnight, but laying the foundation now is better than later. Or not at all.
That's what I meant, WWE will understand or think they understand the problem once those short term mega star draws leave and things begin to dip again. They need to invest more in the talent that they have. They failed big time with the fresh talent they were getting in 2009 and 2010 by cutting off so many pushes and killing so many story lines.
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One thing that should be noted from either viewpoints of the "bring back old talent vs improve the current show" argument is how so many believe it's simply a matter of doing so and everything will be fine. Well, it's not totally implausible, although I highly doubt viewers will come flooding back in a short matter of time. Quality shows don't necessarily mean an immediate increase (not talking about what one's definition if 'quality' is, anyway), nor is bringing back talent like the Rock going to fix the haemorrhaging all the damn time.

What WWE needs is patience and diligence. I think they're showing signs of both recently, but we know how the word 'sustainment' hasn't been apart of their vocabulary in recent times. Patience is something a lot of this forum's posters should have as well, as I worry that all this talk about ratings and so forth drives them into this philosophy of "why isn't this wrestler/angle drawing viewers NOW!? Scrap the thing, it obviously ain't working three weeks into its duration!"

Things have to take time, particularly now when viewers have been told what to expect of the current talent pool and have looked to be fairly unimpressed all throughout the board. This 'improvement' will require work, so don't expect instantaneous results to appear overnight.
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One thing that should be noted from either viewpoints of the "bring back old talent vs improve the current show" argument is how so many believe it's simply a matter of doing so and everything will be fine. Well, it's not totally implausible, although I highly doubt viewers will come flooding back in a short matter of time. Quality shows don't necessarily mean an immediate increase (not talking about what one's definition if 'quality' is, anyway), nor is bringing back talent like the Rock going to fix the haemorrhaging all the damn time.

What WWE needs is patience and diligence. I think they're showing signs of both recently, but we know how the word 'sustainment' hasn't been apart of their vocabulary in recent times. Patience is something a lot of this forum's posters should have as well, as I worry that all this talk about ratings and so forth drives them into this philosophy of "why isn't this wrestler/angle drawing viewers NOW!? Scrap the thing, it obviously ain't working three weeks into its duration!"

Things have to take time, particularly now when viewers have been told what to expect of the current talent pool and have looked to be fairly unimpressed all throughout the board. This 'improvement' will require work, so don't expect instantaneous results to appear overnight.

I agree with you on some points, but they've been too scared to take risks and they've been too patient.
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That's what I meant, WWE will understand or think they understand the problem once those short term mega star draws leave and things begin to dip again. They need to invest more in the talent that they have. They failed big time with the fresh talent they were getting in 2009 and 2010 by cutting off so many pushes and killing so many story lines.
Which is one thing that makes me wonder if the Rock just might be laying down at the Rumble.
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