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post #8831 of 9175 (permalink) Old 12-14-2012, 10:27 AM
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

I see a huge "why do you care about ratings?" topic merged to this and I'm gonna leave my 2 cents here. Unsurprisingly, it's from the same guy who made that "Why do you hate Punk?" topic a day or two ago. Like I gave a real response to that one, I'm gonna do so here too.

The reason I care about ratings is just because of pure curiosity. If I "obsess" over them currently, it's because I absolutely despise the shows and refuse to watch them, so when I read about the ratings being low, it makes me happy and gives me hope that there'll be a change in direction. To those who say "JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW!", I'll just repeat what Hawksea said. You aren't seriously SUGGESTING me to enjoy a show which has CM FUCKING PUNK as its champion for over a year, are you? I almost feel insulted by that. And don't get it twisted, I don't decide who my favorites and least favorites are based on who draws the most amount of viewers in their segments. That's a fucking stupid misconception that was started by some butthurt Punk mark last year and it's become the norm to say when it's a ratings discussion.
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"JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW!"
Those that say that too also annoy me. I can understand if they say it to someone who bitches about absolutely everything and won't accept anything on the show, yet still is a fan and yet continues to watch it and post in the live discussion threads. A majority of people it is said to however, are merely making fair criticisms. It is as if someone can't form their own opinion. When someone says this for CM Punk being champion "JUST ENJOY HIM AS CHAMPION AND THE SHOW", it really annoys me. You should never HAVE to like someone, that's taking away what makes opinions opinions(and this forum in itself).



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The rating part is interesting. But the Quarterhour breakdown is usually useless. Since its so many factors that determine how it does, mostly due to commercial breaks.
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it makes me happy and gives me hope that there'll be a change in direction.
except there hasn't been a change in direction since the last 2 years, how sad, pathetic and masochistic

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exactly, there's NO competition, why would they care if they pull 1.0, as long as the network is happy they will keep doing televised shows and getting money, as long as they have no competition WWE have no reason to actually care about ratings at all, the only way they would care its if TNA magically starts pulling their legs and start getting more ratings, enough for the network to actually demand more effort from WWE so they can win a "ratings war", right now there is no war, and as such, they could hardly care about anything
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Those that say that too also annoy me. I can understand if they say it to someone who bitches about absolutely everything and won't accept anything on the show, yet still is a fan and yet continues to watch it and post in the live discussion threads. A majority of people it is said to however, are merely making fair criticisms. It is as if someone can't form their own opinion. When someone says this for CM Punk being champion "JUST ENJOY HIM AS CHAMPION AND THE SHOW", it really annoys me. You should never HAVE to like someone, that's taking away what makes opinions opinions(and this forum in itself).
I agree. It's even more annoying than "If you don't like it, don't watch". I agree with the comment if it's aimed at somebody who will find something to bitch about in every damn part of the show including the rope colors but if somebody can't enjoy the show despite wanting to, then STFU with that "JUST ENJOY IT" crap. I fall into the latter category so when I enjoy something, I am genuinely positive about it (most notably Wrestlemania 28) but if I can't enjoy it, then nobody is gonna convince me to force myself to enjoy it.

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except there hasn't been a change in direction since the last 2 years, how sad, pathetic and masochistic
Yeah, and ratings have never decreased in such a rapid pace as they have in the past few months. So whatever.
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TNA simply doesn't have the marketing machine WWE has right now in order to promote its TV show in order to spike up the ratings to anything near competitive. So as long as sponsors and the network are happy, WWE doesn't need to worry as much about ratings.



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WrestlingInc had a good podcast this week on how important ratings are. One of the points the guy made was that USA could buy something that would get 2.0's for half the price. That, alone, is a serious discussion deserving of its own thread.
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WrestlingInc.com's podcasts are usually pretty good. It was quite interesting to hear their take on the declining RAW ratings. It's quite scary to think that RAW pulling a 2.0 could be exchanged for half the price of another show. It would be quite a big discussion, due to lots of "if, buts, ands". To say WWE do not care about ratings though, is foolish. The bottom line is that RAW and its ratings are the primary source and derivative of sources of their revenue. Think about it, merchandise(toys,shirts,games etc), PPV buys, ticket sales. All of these are derived and ultimately sourced from their primary platform, RAW. If RAW is getting poorer and poorer, then new merchandise and PPVs will generally have a much poorer chance at success. (In recent months we have seen PPV buys rise, surprisingly. However it is the strong WrestleMania and SummerSlam numbers that is currently saving WWE this year-balance sheet wise.)



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The third hour adds to an already shitty vibe adding fatigue and driving down ratings. However it adds an additional hour of advertising, that kind of money can buy several months of Rock cameos That might seem like it balances out but it doesn't really. It's a tactical trade off, but a strategical misstep. We've been here before, WCW with the third hour, still writing the show while its already on air and trying to keep up by bringing in quick (albeit big) fixes. Seeing the Rock is cool, but I can do that in Fast Six. What else you got for me? Sweet fuck all don't cut it. The WWE Network is also to me, incomprehensibly risky. They want to introduce that right it the gate of the Netflix era? The time to do that was 2002, with WCW and buying out AOL contracts. Seems to me that no way Shane McMahon would've even considered launching that venture. At some point it's possible the internet will swallow terrestrial and even cable TV. WWE right now should be focusing on making RAW the hottest 2 hour show on cable and not betting the farm on giant white elephants.

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Can we please go back to just making Mark Henry jokes in this thread?
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