View Poll Results: Do Wrestlers Draw, Or Does the WWE Brand Draw?
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Wrestlers Draw
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WWE Brand draws
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12-11-2012, 05:05 PM
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#8701 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by MikeChase27
If Ryback is such a monster drawing face why aren't people tuning in to see him chase Punk for the belt?
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Because he is no longer the monster drawing face. He was until HIAC PPV main event where they had punk beat him. That clearly ruined his appeal.
All PPV numbers have been up this year btw. It's not punk. MITB '11 is the only PPV you can credit him for the buys.
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12-11-2012, 05:06 PM
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DIRK
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by SANTA GAME
I think you mean my posting has really gone downhill. Maybe it's because I changed my name and turned my back on the WF Universe. SANTA GAME = Heel Starbuck. Nobody even noticed my heel turn either. Now I know what CM Punk feels like 
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Oh right, it was "downhill." Maybe you're starting to rub off on me. I feel a little off my GAME (pun intended).
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12-11-2012, 05:08 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Who is this starbuck you guys talking about?, i dont see anyone with that name, confusing.
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HOW ORIGINAL.
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12-11-2012, 05:08 PM
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Carrying SCOTT STEINER's bags
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Crusade
Unfortunately short sighted marks will be short sighted. There is always a scapegoat. Right now its Punk. And before then it was Cena. And I'm not someone arguing Punk is a ratings draw, he isn't but its not all his fault. You can't blame the entire product on a single talent.
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I think some scapegoated Cena only because he was the poster boy of the biggest problem with the WWE... it was all about Cena and to hell with everything else. Most of us have stopped blaming Cena personally and recognised it's shitty booking and only shitty booking killing this company. Back in 95, I heard it so many times that the roster just couldn't compete and wasn't good enough. Then when the shackles came off, that very same roster was suddenly the hottest damn thing on television. You went from Ringmaster to SCSA... Maiva to the Rock... cowboy and roadie to the New Age Outlaws... blue blood to ass kicking degenerate... Dentist to the Big Red Machine. Really, they had a hell of a lot of talent that was hamstrung by some of the shittiest booking ever. That is the exact same thing happening now. This roster is stacked and this should could be electric... they just need to pull their head out of their ass and book it properly. Could you imagine the midcard fueds? The tag feuds? And the non main event feuds? IT would be must watch TV if they let this roster achieve it's potential!
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Ahhhh... late night strolls through the forum with my booze. Here's to finding out what the hell I did the next day!
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12-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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DIRK
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
Who is this starbuck you guys talking about?, i dont see anyone with that name, confusing.
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The guy responding to posts that start with "Starbuck, ..."
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12-11-2012, 05:12 PM
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Little Poppa Pump
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
DAT SANTA GAME WORKIN DEM PHIL MARKS LIKE A BOSS! 
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12-11-2012, 05:12 PM
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S. H. I. E. L. D
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by The Cynical Miracle
He's just mad that Punk has held the title longer then all his favourite wrestlers.
And while HHH is getting his arm broken and crying during a fake retirement speech no one believes or cares about. Punks trailblazing the business.
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 Wow. The butthurt is strong in this one. Meh. My favorite wrestlers don't need to hold the title for a year to be relevant and it really doesn't matter to me either. Besides, while Punk 'trailblazes' the business, whatever that means, Trips GNA RUN DA BIZNUS pretty soon. U just be mad bout DAT TEAR meaning more than DAT TITLE RUN ever will. I almost feel bad for you.
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Originally Posted by The Reindeer Killer
Oh right, it was "downhill." Maybe you're starting to rub off on me. I feel a little off my GAME (pun intended).
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Off your GAME?? I see what you did there 
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12-11-2012, 05:18 PM
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Lacing SCOTT STEINER's boots
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Cody's moustache bringing in dem viewers. Steve Austin had one and Punk has a moustache too so that unquestionably means he brings in dem ratings aswell
My logic is bulletproof 
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12-11-2012, 05:19 PM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
I think its unfair to blame Punk for the ratings dropping this drastically. Its down to crappy acting, crappy ass promos, and the show is too long. I mean Punk is no mega draw but all the ppv he Main evented between last year and this year went up in buys didnt they? And he has done relatively well in merchandise. So to say he doesnt draw a dime is a bit of an over statement. He draws decent and that is not bad at all. People need to stop comparing the ratings and the talent to the talent of yesteryear. I mean no one is gonna draw like Rock did. Or Austin did. Not even Cena in 06-07. So we just gotta take it for what it is. Punk is an Ok draw and even if he isnt so what? WRESTLING as a product isnt drawing so how can one man be expected to draw? I just dont get it. The show was OK. Nice matches here and there.
Last edited by nwoattitude : 12-11-2012 at 05:21 PM.
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12-11-2012, 05:24 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
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Originally Posted by nwoattitude
I think its unfair to blame Punk for the ratings dropping this drastically. Its down to crappy acting, crappy ass promos, and the show is too long. I mean Punk is no mega draw but all the ppv he Main evented between last year and this year went up in buys didnt they? And he has done relatively well in merchandise. So to say he doesnt draw a dime is a bit of an over statement. He draws decent and that is not bad at all. People need to stop comparing the ratings and the talent to the talent of yesteryear. I mean no one is gonna draw like Rock did. Or Austin did. Not even Cena in 06-07. So we just gotta take it for what it is. Punk is an Ok draw and even if he isnt so what? WRESTLING as a product isnt drawing so how can one man be expected to draw? I just dont get it. The show was OK. Nice matches here and there.
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This, Wrestling isn't "cool" right now the cool thing right now is MMA. The WWE needs to take notes on how the UFC builds talent.
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