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Old 12-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #8511 (permalink)
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Stop arguing. Its very simple: ¿Who is the champion?? who is the main focus of the show? CM PUNK.

Hes not a draw, these ratings are almost at tna lvls.
sorry to disappoint, but no. No one checks who the champion is to watch the whole show. It's a 3 hour show, which is the only reason the ratings are going down a hell hole. The champion is irrelevant.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:39 AM   #8512 (permalink)
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Very rarely. I've seen him call gains Punk has gotten "weak for this timeslot" and when someone like Sheamus/Big Show/Cena does the same he'll either not comment on it or call it a strong gain. The fact is he's shown his bias more than enough times to know there's something up with that.
Link or issue dates please.

Unlike most here I am a reader I don't see this at all.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:05 AM   #8513 (permalink)
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sorry to disappoint, but no. No one checks who the champion is to watch the whole show. It's a 3 hour show, which is the only reason the ratings are going down a hell hole. The champion is irrelevant.
Posts like this should be a bannable offence.

Lets ignore the shit ratings Punk got this time last year as champ.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:08 AM   #8514 (permalink)
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Austin or Rock can become champion and the ratings won't change much.

Hogan,Austin and Rock were present around WM 19 and it was one of the worst selling PPV.The scenario has changed so much.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:20 AM   #8515 (permalink)
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Austin or Rock can become champion and the ratings won't change much.

Hogan,Austin and Rock were present around WM 19 and it was one of the worst selling PPV.The scenario has changed so much.
I bet if Rock becomes champion at the Rumble the rating will be in the 3's again.

When Rock returned to Raw in 2003, the rating was in the 4's again. But they weren't able to keep the viewers leading up to mania, which the horrible Booker/HHH "main event" feud is more likely to blame for.

Hogan wasn't on one single Raw show by the way. That's also why the ratings (and the buyrate) sucked, they had no Hogan and no Taker, two of the biggest draws ever and two of the most important guys on a Wrestlemania card on Raw.

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I generally think it's the show that draws and not just 1 individual. Cena may be very popular but even his 2007 title reign lost a load of viewers on the whole. Hell it went from 4.0's to like low 3's. Thats huge.

At the end of the day the whole product has to be superb. Yes you need a poster body or a the 'guy' but it's what you do with the roster that is important. John Cena didn't affect the ratings last week because he appeals to children and yet children DONT like romance. It's stupid.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:32 AM   #8517 (permalink)
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Posts like this should be a bannable offence.

Lets ignore the shit ratings Punk got this time last year as champ.
Well said. 3 hour has just become an excuse to cover up what a ratings cancer Punk is. Last year the go home show to MITB got a 2.94 and that was panic zone numbers at that time. He got to main event around December time (along with IWC darlings in D-Bryan and Zack Ryder) and the numbers were horrible. He then LOST viewers twice, once in the 10PM spot in a match with Bryan (IIRC) and the other was in the MAIN EVENT when he took on Bryan and Tensai. Now it's 3 hours, then the response was "Y U KARE ABT RATINGZZZ!!!!???!?!" while others accepted that 'casuals' just don't care for Punk.
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I actually lol'd when Phil told the viewers at home to tune out. You can see it's really got to him. Poor guy.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:10 AM   #8519 (permalink)
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The real ratings cancer is Vince, with his stupid ideas and countless booking changes. The man is senile, he should retire and let HHH to take over the company.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:49 AM   #8520 (permalink)
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The problem is that neither the storylines, nor stars are good enough to make wrestling bloom. I don't think wrestling is dying unlike most who try to overexagerate things, but let's just compare WCW and WWF in its prime to current WWE.

WCW had Steiner/Goldberg, the more brute personalties, WWE had the more hollywood style personas. Austin was the characterised redneck who drinks a lot of beer, The Rock was the arrogant high-society guy with charisma that would get his way, Steiner was the ultimate alpha male who would beat guys up for no pleasing their wife, and Goldberg would be the badass guy with insane intensity that could fuck anyone up.

In all four cases, creative did their best to display each wrestlers character. Nowadays wresters are both less interesting and storylines try less to make them standout more. If Austin didn't kick ass, if Rock didn't have catchphrases and expensive suits, if Goldberg lost and if Steiner never got chicks, how would they look like? Not very well.

On another note, WWE really needs a Scott Steiner like personality. Imagine a huge guy ripped to shreds shooting back on Punk and owning him totally, then fucking Lita, only to beat him up again. Maybe Cesaro could do it? He's a great ring worker put in a shitty gimmick, but he has the strength needed, and probably enough charisma if needed. Dunno if he could ever get Steiner level personality but it would probably be a good effort.
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