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Old 12-06-2012, 05:57 PM   #8501 (permalink)
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Meltzer has said positive things about Punk in the past. He tries to remain as objective as possible.
Very rarely. I've seen him call gains Punk has gotten "weak for this timeslot" and when someone like Sheamus/Big Show/Cena does the same he'll either not comment on it or call it a strong gain. The fact is he's shown his bias more than enough times to know there's something up with that.
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Meltzer likes Punk. He did give him two 5 star matches. It was Punk who attacked first.
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Very rarely. I've seen him call gains Punk has gotten "weak for this timeslot" and when someone like Sheamus/Big Show/Cena does the same he'll either not comment on it or call it a strong gain. The fact is he's shown his bias more than enough times to know there's something up with that.
Meltzer has ranted on Punk a few times before, some of which were funny, but I don't think he hates Punk. It's not like he blames Punk for the overall declining ratings, or at least I never heard him say that.
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Have you listened to Meltzer talk about Punk before? He always criticizes him, whether it be for burying someone like Del Rio/Miz, whining, bad mouthing the Rock, etc. If you can find any of his podcasts and listen to then you'll hear the tone he has about Punk.
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Meltzer has appeared to have a bias against Punk because anytime I've heard anything from Meltzer regarding Punk, it's been negative (In all fairness though, I don't listen to Meltzer often... only when he's brought up on here). I don't believe he "hates" Punk.
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Meltzer has ranted on Punk a few times before, some of which were funny, but I don't think he hates Punk. It's not like he blames Punk for the overall declining ratings, or at least I never heard him say that.
I've heard him try and explain why he believes casuals don't like Punk, meaning he believes Punk isn't drawing well, and his explanations took a lot of shots at Punk which he joked about. Also, like I said about the comments he makes on his ratings breakdowns, you can see the bias there front and centre with how he comments on Punk's segments the majority of time in comparison with others getting the same ratings for their segments.
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Meltzer has appeared to have a bias against Punk because anytime I've heard anything from Meltzer regarding Punk, it's been negative (In all fairness though, I don't listen to Meltzer often... only when he's brought up on here). I don't believe he "hates" Punk.
Exactly which proves my original point, that it is much easier to believe that Meltzer downplays Punk's good segments and emphasizes his bad segments, than him deliberately trying save Punk from embarrassment like that one poster said.
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Stop arguing. Its very simple: ¿Who is the champion?? who is the main focus of the show? CM PUNK.

Hes not a draw, these ratings are almost at tna lvls.
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Stop arguing. Its very simple: ¿Who is the champion?? who is the main focus of the show? CM PUNK.

Hes not a draw, these ratings are almost at tna lvls.
Tbh if a 34 yo scsa debuts right now, i doubt he's gonna get better ratings. Ratings are about the show as a whole, a single "champion" can't dramatically change the ratings. (imo)
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Stop arguing. Its very simple: ¿Who is the champion?? who is the main focus of the show? CM PUNK.
The thing is, it's not that simple.

Of course, there's no use in trying to argue it. Rather, let's just wait until Rock becomes champion and they're only just managing to get 3.0-3.1's.
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