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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#2,850 ·
Did anyone think Lord Tensai vs. CM Punk was going to draw?

Eh. It's May. They don't care. I hope that tag match and aftermath to it did well in the first quarter hour of hour two, anyway.

I fear that we aren't getting Triple H vs. Lesnar at Summerslam. I have to admit, when they revealed that Trips will be back next week, my first reaction was, "NOOO!!!" (silently in my head). This is WWE, they can't book long-term. Brock/Trips is probably your No Way Out main event. This upsets me greatly as I'm going to Summerslam and I wanna see Triple H vs. Lesnar, dammit! Argh.
 
#2,853 ·
WWE had Triple H's vertebrae fractured one month, and return to seek vengeance against Kevin Nash the next. I think his arm should be all healed up in about a week from now, lol.

Orton/Lesnar's cool and all but Triple H/Lesnar is just so much bigger in my view, and it was a match that was a logical big match ages ago when Lesnar was around, they even apparently strongly considered it for WM21 before Lesnar left. Oh well.
 
#2,855 ·
HHH/Lesnar has to be at Summerslam. Fuck WWE if it isn't lol. Seriously. This thing is off to a really good start. I just sincerely hope that they don't fuck it the fuck up as usual. At this rate you could practically physically put money into Vince McMahon's hands and he'll let it all slip through his fingers. Besides, after Lesnar/Cena and Lesnar/HHH, Lesnar/Orton would be...underwhelming. In fact, Lesnar/anybody bar Taker/Rock would be underwhelming tbh.
 
#2,856 ·
Agreed, Starbuck. Orton/Lesnar is a letdown following Lesnar/Cena and Lesnar/Triple H.

WWE creative can't book beyond week-to-week and every promising angle ends up disappointing because Vince is a lunatic who's forgotten how to helm compelling angles for more than two months at the maximum. Which coincides with The Road to Wrestlemania being two months and leading to the one event Vince/WWE actually gives a damn about all year long, ha.

True story.
 
#2,858 · (Edited)
Starbuck and DesRow are correct here. I also has this fear that HHH/Lesnar is going to be your No Way Out ME as well. And I also agree that Lesnar/Orton after Lesnar/Cena and Lesnar/HHH would be very underwhelming at Summerslam. Hope I am wrong and the WWE is actually going to book the Lesnar/HHH thing long-term, and I do hold some hope of that with Brock "quitting" this past Raw. Plus, as bad as HHH's "broken" arm is made out to be No Way Out would be a quick healing time, even in the WWE world. I could see them maybe having Orton/Lesnar at NWO and then HHH/Lesnar at Summerslam as well.

Or the WWE has completely trolled us and Lesnar's contract was really only for one month and he was only back to put over Cena and "quit"

As for this week's ratings #s pretty much what I expected. As big of fan of Punk as I am personally, there is no way anyone should've expected a Punk/Tensai advertised ME to keep people watching.
 
#2,859 · (Edited)
Lesnar/HHH is obviously bigger and has the potential to draw more but they gave away Brock/Cena on the first match and that was probably the biggest money match they had. Still, I can't see HHH working random PPVs, add to that the arm injury that even with WWE's logic, I don't know how you can break this angle so quickly. Lesnar/HHH is a lock for Summerslam, Lesnar/Orton is probably happening at SVS or the Rumble and with the right build up, they can do great business with that match.

WWE are booking week to week for years now, people know it and still pretending to think about long term storylines like it's even a possibility and everything WWE do is a "master plan".
 
#2,862 ·
I'll defy all logic here and say that HHH/Lesnar is still on for Summerslam. I mean, it really shouldn't be that hard since both of them are off TV. How fucking hard can it be to keep 2 guys off TV for a month and start the proper build there? It should be easy as pie but of course that's never the case with WWE anymore. I'd rather wait and get the match built properly at Summerslam than have it rushed at NWO or even worse, bumrushed at OTL.
 
#2,864 ·
I'll defy all logic here and say that HHH/Lesnar is still on for Summerslam. I mean, it really shouldn't be that hard since both of them are off TV. How fucking hard can it be to keep 2 guys off TV for a month and start the proper build there. It should be easy as pie but of course that's never the case with WWE anymore. I'd rather wait and get the match built properly at Summerslam than have it rushed at NWO or even worse, bumrushed at OTL.
The very sad thing is would any of us really be that shocked if they did end up having the match at OTL?
 
#2,863 ·
Paul Heyman return>Brock Lesnar return
 
#2,866 ·
I get Vince's reasoning for this. And if this is the case then they should put Brock in a couple matches with guys that aren't "long term" investments to go over like Big Show, to not totally destroy his credibility. Although jsut being Brock Lesnar will carry some credibility regardless of how hes booked over the next year.
 
#2,867 ·
I can see HHH going over because technically the story kinda calls for him to go over. At the same time, it will all but kill off Brock. I think when the match does happen they have to take it a step further than Brock/Cena if possible and end it where the match has to be stopped or something, even have Steph run down and throw in the towel or whatever because Lesnar is literally killing HHH. That way Trips can disappear again until Mania, Brock looks uber strong and awaits his next feud. Problem with that is, if the COO and legend HHH can't stop Lesnar, who can? Taker? Rock? Oh wait, Cena already did so maybe Trips will call on Cena to do it again and we get the rematch. I really don't know. HHH can still look strong in defeat but the thing is, they've already fucked up the story of what happens next by having Cena beat him at ER.
 
#2,891 ·
I like where you're going with this, and here's my idea to add. Have Lesnar beat HHH at Summerslam, either by pinning him or as you said, literally beating the shit out of him. Then Cena/Lesnar II can happen at Survivor Series, with Lesnar going over this time. Finally, maybe right after Royal Rumble Rock or Taker appears and challenges Lesnar to a match at Wrestlemania.
 
#2,872 ·
Nah, Brock wants to look good and is not a corporate puppet, the power is still in his hands, from what I understand, the only reason he lost is to get the image for the company in case he quits or something(they did irreversible damage with the ridiculous lose but needs to move on), basically something to play in the video packages. Now it's behind them and he needs and I believe is going to win every match, HHH is a smart man and he should want to lose to Brock, ego or not.

As for C PPV, if I know HHH's mentality over the years, after last year's disaster results, he's not working random PPVs ever again. Especially for his public image and behind the scenes.
 
#2,878 ·
Nah, Brock wants to look good and is not a corporate puppet, the power is still in his hands, from what I understand, the only reason he lost is to get the image for the company in case he quits or something(they did irreversible damage with the ridiculous lose but needs to move on), basically something to play in the video packages. Now it's behind them and he needs and I believe is going to win every match, HHH is a smart man and he should want to lose to Brock, ego or not.

As for C PPV, if I know HHH's mentality over the years, after last year's disaster results, he's not working random PPVs ever again. Especially for his public image and behind the scenes.
What would working one of the smaller PPVs do to effect his image?
 
#2,873 ·
At the end of the day, if Brock is only there to collect his money and doesn't care about what happens with his character etc then I guess Vince can't really be faulted for using him to 'legitimize' or put over his current top guys. For all we know, Rock/Cena II is already the big match for Mania 29 and Lesnar won't even be there and they're just using him to fill the gap between now and then. If that's the case, I can see WWE's POV. At the same time, with every loss Lesnar eats his value diminishes and the impact of the put over for the next guy diminishes also.
 
#2,889 ·
So the feud is HHH and Lesnar as equals and Floyd and Bieber as equals? Mayweather selling for Bieber is already money. Leno and Hogan will look like Angle and Benoit. Even with how embarrassing it sounds, this kid can draw huge for WWE if they promote him to sing at WM. And of course, the main event takes all the credit...

I don't see Floyd doing another wrestling show but if he does, a program with Lesnar will be everywhere.

RAW: first hour - 3.1, second hour - 2.94.
 
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