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Old 12-06-2012, 01:42 PM   #8481 (permalink)
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The fact that both Bryan/Rey and Sheamus/Cesaro lost a fair heap of viewers last week does not speak well of the WWE Universe.
You can't just have random matches on RAW for no reason & expect the matches being good to be enough of a reason to make people care. There's no heat, emotion or story & every single match has bad commentary & a mid-match commercial break. Plus, it doesn't even matter who wins.

Although the wrestling in WWE nowadays is actually really good it is sadly the thing that matters the least.

As an example, why is John Cena (babyface) wrestling Dolph Ziggler (heel) on the TLC Pay-Per-View (for $50) when John Cena (the GOOD GUY) has already beaten Dolph Ziggler (the BAD GUY) twice, for free, on TV, clean?? The bad guy/heel is not getting any come uppance, the good guy/babyface is not getting any revenge. It is a story with no arch or even a middle. It was over when it started because the good guy thwarted the villain in the beginning.

WWE TV is just FULL of shit like that, so no one gives a fuck about the matches & they can just turn to football instead.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:47 PM   #8482 (permalink)
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Poor writing, poor storytelling, no drama, no intensity and the product is too sanitized. Everything suffers at that point.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:53 PM   #8483 (permalink)
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I liked the other one with the tree better but I can live with JR lol.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:58 PM   #8485 (permalink)
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You can't just have random matches on RAW for no reason & expect the matches being good to be enough of a reason to make people care. There's no heat, emotion or story & every single match has bad commentary & a mid-match commercial break. Plus, it doesn't even matter who wins.

Although the wrestling in WWE nowadays is actually really good it is sadly the thing that matters the least.

As an example, why is John Cena (babyface) wrestling Dolph Ziggler (heel) on the TLC Pay-Per-View (for $50) when John Cena (the GOOD GUY) has already beaten Dolph Ziggler (the BAD GUY) twice, for free, on TV, clean?? The bad guy/heel is not getting any come uppance, the good guy/babyface is not getting any revenge. It is a story with no arch or even a middle. It was over when it started because the good guy thwarted the villain in the beginning.

WWE TV is just FULL of shit like that, so no one gives a fuck about the matches & they can just turn to football instead.
Oh, I know. It just makes me hyperaware of how far outside the (apparent) target demographic I am when those matches haemhorrage viewers, and Del Rio vs Khali draws huge.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:00 PM   #8486 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #8487 (permalink)
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The reasons why viewers tune out of most matches on RAW is because 99% of them don't mean anything. They are thrown together without heat. Look at Ryback Vs Brad for example. It drew really well and that's because it had a meaning and something was on the line. Now, not every match can have something one the line. But that's the main reason matches don't really draw on RAW.
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Nah it's cause Rydraw was involved in a slot that isn't predestined to always lose viewers
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Now, not every match can have something on the line.
They can if WWE are smart about it. Like, make wins/losses matter. Where if you win, talk about the "winner's purse" or how they're closer to a title shot or something. Just kayfabe it. But they don't even try!!

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Oh, I know. It just makes me hyperaware of how far outside the (apparent) target demographic I am when those matches haemhorrage viewers, and Del Rio vs Khali draws huge.
Yeah, you & me both. The Khali match is baffling to me, I guess maybe it is just the freak show appeal? I have no idea. I am really outside of the target demo. too, which is honestly kind of sad as it feels like I have been forgotten as fan despite supporting the company for over twenty years. I suppose I want a more realistic, sports feel to the product, like old Crockett or NWA days, which I think C.M. Punk would fit in with perfectly. To achieve that though, wins/losses have to matter, continuity has to exist, there should be repercussions & consequences to things & the titles need to be prestigious so that people chasing them makes sense.

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wow.titus o'neal drew well last week.
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