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Old 12-06-2012, 12:38 AM   #8441 (permalink)
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Nash more entertaining than Punk... I just... I... well everyone's entitled to their opinion... but... eh...

Okay, can't say I agree at all. As a kid, I loved the NWO (mainly due to my father's influence, but still) and I liked Nash. From what I've seen in old videos he does know how to work the stick, no question asks, and I wouldn't argue he has more charisma than Punk.

But Nash being more entertaining or better than Punk in any category related to talent completely blows my mind, and honestly I never would've thought anyone would've thought that.

It is what it is though. I personally find Punk 100 times better on the mic, 1,000,000 times better in the ring, more entertaining and more fun to watch. I've always preferred Big Show as a giant to Nash anyway.

Edit: No breakdowns? I'm a sad Sandrone.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:47 AM   #8442 (permalink)
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Nash more entertaining than Punk... I just... I... well everyone's entitled to their opinion... but... eh...

Okay, can't say I agree at all. As a kid, I loved the NWO (mainly due to my father's influence, but still) and I liked Nash. From what I've seen in old videos he does know how to work the stick, no question asks, and I wouldn't argue he has more charisma than Punk.

But Nash being more entertaining or better than Punk in any category related to talent completely blows my mind, and honestly I never would've thought anyone would've thought that.

It is what it is though. I personally find Punk 100 times better on the mic, 1,000,000 times better in the ring, more entertaining and more fun to watch. I've always preferred Big Show as a giant to Nash anyway.

Edit: No breakdowns? I'm a sad Sandrone.
Well, I never said Nash was better in ring than Punk. That's kind of indisputable, Punk is the better in ring worker. Promos...Punk in his own way is sorta one dimensional. He's got awesome delivery but he's truly at his best when he's complaining. We saw his attempts at comedy early this year and...yeah. Cena worthy. I bought Nash more as a babyface than I ever did Punk. Heel wise...both did well in their own ways.

Again, could just be nostalgia talking. I do enjoy Punk but I really, REALLY fucking hate this current era, and that may very well sour me on 99% of things in 2012. Nash, when I watched him, was at his peak during the Monday Night Wars, which was my favorite period of pro wrestling. I admit, I'm probably biased.
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Kevin Nash is one of the smartest and most natural performers of all time. Even if you put his entire career aside. Only a few in wrestling history were bigger than Nash was in 97-98. This is the guy who was neck to neck with Goldberg at his peak as the Top 2 babyfaces of WCW's biggest year ever in merchandise sales, ratings and crowd reactions. Nash is one of the best ever on the mic, one of the most charismatic, looked and carried himself like a superstar. Punk will never be half the star Nash was at his peak, Nash was doing mainstream tours all over the place back then. Not comparable to Punk in any way, unless you talk in-ring, which is obvious since Nash is much more limited due to his size and big man style. Eeven with that, he had plenty of classic matches when he cared with Bret and Shawn. "Diesel 1995" became more of a stigma than what actually happened, fact is, WWF were making more money in 1995 than they were making in 1993-1994, IYH started on PPV, gates were much bigger, etc. Nash was a game-changer in WCW, a major part in the nWo, one half of the iconic tag team The Outsiders and the leader of the Wolfpack, one of the most popular stables of all time. And like I always said, I can also appreciate his ability to manipulate and play with every locker room in any way he wants. The things he did in WCW was a masterful work.

In addition to that, all the nWo members credited Nash for all the mega popular nWo catchphrases, "Too Sweet", "Wolfpack in the house", "4-life", all started when Nash ran with it spontaneously on TV every week and it got over huge and made millions of dollars worldwide.




Nash is a legend. + The fact that he had the greatest theme of all time bumps him on the list even more



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In the segment-by-segment, Kane & Bryan vs. Prime Time Players opened 2.57. The Shield attacking Kane & Bryan plus A.J. vs. Tamina Snuka gained 126,000 viewers. The C.M. Punk and Paul Heyman interview before Miz came out gained 24,000 viewers. Once Miz came out and they started on the lie detector stuff they lost 214,000 viewers. John Cena & Sheamus vs. Big Show & Dolph Ziggler gained 138,000 viewers which is very weak for 9 p.m. and did a 2.63. Damien Sandow vs. Santino Marella in-ring comedy plus match lost 226,000 viewers. Alberto Del Rio vs. Sin Cara lost 121,000 viewers. The in-ring segment with Vince McMahon and Vickie Guerrero gained 493,000 viewers and was the highest rated non-overrun segment at 2.73. Randy Orton vs. Brad Maddox and The Shield attack on Orton lost 167,000 viewers. Kofi Kingston vs. Antonio Cesaro vs. R-Truth vs. Wade Barrett lost 169,000 viewers. The lie detector segment and Shield beat down of Miz, Kane and Bryan and Ryback save gained 509,000 viewers to a 2.86.
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n the segment-by-segment, the Ryback vs. Titus O’Neil opened with a 2.89 rating. Alberto Del Rio vs. Great Khali gained 129,000 viewers and ended up being the highest rated segment of the show with a 2.98 quarter. The Michael Cole interview with Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose lost 139,000 viewers. Tamina Snuka vs. Alicia Fox gained 46,000 viewers. The in-ring with John Cena, Vickie Guerrero, A.J. and Dolph Ziggler plus Kofi Kingston vs. Tensai gained 90,000 viewers which would be probably the lowest 9 p.m. gain since the show went to three hours. Daniel Bryan vs. Rey Mysterio lost 366,000 viewers. John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler lost 17,000 viewers and did a 2.70 at 10 p.m. That number can’t be in the realm of what would have been expected there. Sheamus vs. Antonio Cesaro lost 229,000 viewers. Damien Sandow vs. Zack Ryder lost 421,000 viewers and did a 2.25 quarter. The C.M. Punk vs. Kane main event gained 592,000 viewers with the early part of the match doing a 2.28 and it going up at 11 p.m. to a 2.66 overrun.
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You mean nobody draws except the stars of the past. Triple H's single tear draws more ratings than these fools.

Next week on Raw a mega main event has been announced!

Fatal 4-Way Ironman Match:

Triple H's tear vs The Rock's $1000 shirt vs Stone Cold's empty beer can vs Undertaker's hat = massive ratings!!!

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I'm pretty sure a good portion of the IWC thought the "Epic" CM Punk would usher in a new audience and higher ratings for the WWE. That didn't happen and it's not because of how they booked Punk. The fact is CM Punk didn't bring anyone new in with his promo. The IWC hoped it would but it didn't happen. So while he's been a good champion for over a year the audience didn't grow under his reign -- it remained the same and as of late it's been going down.
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The numbers are all over the place as usual with Meltzer's breakdowns. You really have to look into quarter segments, the commercials and backstage stuff to know what actually drew. Meh...

That 10 PM quarter had only the end of Cena/Dolph match iirc? However seems like the previous quarter lost viewers as well, so I guess Cena/Dolph/AJ/Vickie scandal clearly failed.

With Punk hurt, TLC PPV's top drawing match would be Cena vs Dolph ladder match. I'd be worried for the buyrate if I were vince.
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ok as far as i am concerned the only one that really drew numbers was vince and punk floating somewhere in between much like cena right now and everyone else loosing viewers
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