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Old 01-31-2012, 07:57 AM   #831 (permalink)
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I dont know about austin but The Rock sure pops the ratings huge these days.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:24 AM   #832 (permalink)
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Storylines don't mean shit if ppl can't relate to Wrestlers character/gimmick.
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And for the casual audience, watching Goldberg in 2 minute squash matches was the highlight of their Monday nights for a while. I, nor many others for that matter, have said that people only watch the stars who draw and I don't know where you and the others got that from. I don't watch HHH because he draws, I watch him because he's my favorite wrestler of all time and he entertains me. We come in here to discuss what/who is pulling good quarter hours and who isn't and to speculate why. How that turned into the fallacy of people only watching and marking for the stars that draw, I don't know. The simple fact is and the numbers prove it, the guys who are legit stars when put into big time situations produce big time numbers. Everybody else doesn't. You want to watch Ryder and Swagger in a promo and that's fine. Other people would prefer to tune in to Raw and see The Rock every week and that's fine too.
I've been saying this for so long now but people will keep doing it, it's always the exact same posters aswell but obviously I'm not gonna name any names. Anyway should be interesting to see how the main event overrun does seeing as it went on 15+ minutes and involed HHH and Taker, expecting a good number
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:40 AM   #834 (permalink)
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Swagger/Ryder over a Goldberg/Hogan segment

And I thought Rock316AE was delusional

Overrun should be interesting considering that Undertaker was a surprise and it went way to fucking long(obv HHH strategy to tell vince "see I drew 1million viewers by myself")
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:57 AM   #835 (permalink)
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The historic Hogan/Goldberg match broke the MNW record at that time BTW with a 6.9, bigger than Austin/Vince. Hogan 98 in general is one of my favorite characters of all time.

The overrun was 18 minutes and it's the day after the Rumble. HHH got the perfect situation to draw a huge number.

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Old 01-31-2012, 12:15 PM   #836 (permalink)
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at Hogan and Goldberg. Never saw talent in either one of them. Swagger on the other hand is one of the better workers in the company and Ryder is grossly underrated.

As for the "ratings saying who is doing a good job", I disagree. Shawn Michaels, considered the GOAT by WWE and by plenty of other people was never technically a draw. So honestly, what would people be thinking if HBK, Jericho, etc lived in the midcard?
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:17 PM   #837 (permalink)
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^^^^ Ratings have nothing to do with being a great worker or wrestler. Of course it helps and when there's a big match promoted between 2 big stars who are also great workers, it will have an impact but nobody is saying it's a reflection of who is doing a good job. Doing a good job in what? That can mean so many things. At the end of the day WWE is a business and ratings are an integral part of their business. Shawn Michaels is one of the GOAT and is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time but he isn't a ratings powerhouse. You can disagree all you want and ratings may not matter to you at all. Like I said before, that's fine. But again, you seem to be pulling stuff out of thin air regarding most people's opinions on ratings. And I have to come out and say it, for somebody who supposedly doesn't care about ratings and doesn't see the point in discussing them, you sure do discuss them quite a bit.

at all this HHH nonsense. Guess what folks, he does actually draw viewers lol. His segment with Ace was going to do well no matter what. Throw Taker in there and it will do better. I love how this all comes down to HHH wanting to prove to Vince that he can draw. He has absolutely nothing to prove and Vince already knows it anyways lol. So silly.
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Swagger on the other hand: is just a goof who will never be a main eventer because he can't deliver a line to save his life and he probably got less charisma than curds, Ryder is your typical wrestling clown who got over for a month because he cried about how miserable his position in the company, people are falling quickly for this stuff so they gave him a sympathy run.

And about the HHH segment, I said it even last week that it's going to do 4.0+, the huge overrun is just another example why , I gave HHH full credit...
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Yeah. But there's all this nonsense that HE picked to have the segment tonight because HE wanted to have the post Rumble boost so that HE could take all the credit so that HE could prove that HE is a big draw. Lol. It's such bullshit. At this stage the guy has absolutely nothing to prove to anybody.
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^^^^ Ratings have nothing to do with being a great worker or wrestler. Of course it helps and when there's a big match promoted between 2 big stars who are also great workers, it will have an impact but nobody is saying it's a reflection of who is doing a good job. Doing a good job in what? That can mean so many things. At the end of the day WWE is a business and ratings are an integral part of their business. Shawn Michaels is one of the GOAT and is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time but he isn't a ratings powerhouse. You can disagree all you want and ratings may not matter to you at all. Like I said before, that's fine. But again, you seem to be pulling stuff out of thin air regarding most people's opinions on ratings. And I have to come out and say it, for somebody who supposedly doesn't care about ratings and doesn't see the point in discussing them, you sure do discuss them quite a bit.

at all this HHH nonsense. Guess what folks, he does actually draw viewers lol. His segment with Ace was going to do well no matter what. Throw Taker in there and it will do better. I love how this all comes down to HHH wanting to prove to Vince that he can draw. He has absolutely nothing to prove and Vince already knows it anyways lol. So silly.
My confusion comes from how wrestling fans have changed the last from when I used to post on here. It was about what you wanted to see happen, not what the company should do. And I don't get that. Your own enjoyment should be more important, imo. But whatever, I'll leave you guys alone now and just monitor this place in case of flaming/etc.
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