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Old 12-05-2012, 03:36 AM   #8351 (permalink)
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Punk will do his magic trick when he Rock is back. He'll tell everyone to turn off again.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:52 AM   #8352 (permalink)
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Punk will do his magic trick when he Rock is back. He'll tell everyone to turn off again.
Rock should try it. "Go ahead jabronis try and tune out, try and forget about the great one" *takes off sunglasses* *troll smile*
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I think it's time to face a terrible reality.

Only the IWC cares about these different wrestlers and them getting stories and titles.

The casuals do not. They only care about John Cena. That's it. And quite frankly AJ Lee and Ryback are starting to climb their way up to being cared about by the casuals. But to be honest, I feel like Ryback has all ready lost a step with the casuals from where he was pre Hell in a cell. AJ is on her way to female version of Cena status with the casuals pretty soon. But other than that? Nothing.

Why do you think the crowd is so dead EVERY week? That's it. They don't give two shits about anyone not named John Cena.

We can analyze it all we want.

I really think it's as simple as that.

And that is a serious problem for WWE, and completely their fault by the way.
Well, that's because WWE is stupid, and since 2005, they never bothered to build someone as Cena's arch nemesis, his eternal rival. Austin had The Rock and HHH, Hogan had Andre and Warrior, and so on... But Cena just goes over randomers all the fucking time. Umaga, Lashley, Batista, Orton, even Lesnar. They're all just randomers compared to Cena. Well, they're trying something (God knows what) with Punk, but he's let's face it - it's fucking CM Punk, people don't care about him.

To sum it up, Cena lacking a generation rival = bad things longterm.
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So what happens when The Rock comes back and the ratings stay the same?
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It won't stay the same, though. Sure, it won't go over 3.1-3.3, but it will cruise comfortably around 2.9, I reckon.
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Can't wait for Rocky to return and show Punk how to draw. Gonna be like Bob Ross trying to teach a toddler who can only finger paint.
So the lesson according to you is "be a big star from before"? It doesn't matter what The Rock does when he comes back. He could come in and just do a tired routine where he just burps his catchphrases but he still draws in people just because of his name that's already built up.

That doesn't really solve anything, just as it won't help Rock much more than short term if Johnny Depp, or some other real actor, does a movie with him.
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I HATE it when people say 'this is the problem' as if there is just 1. There are multiple problems ATM. The booking is crap. The 3hrs are crap. The wrestling is good but the characters themselves are crap.

Back in the AE there were characters that we loved to love and loved to hate. Austin, Rock and HHH were all universally loved. Cena is hated by half the fan base. Punk clearly isn't a draw for the average/ young youth. That is unfortunate but it's true. However, the blame does not lye on 1 person. The whole lockeroom needs to take a long hard look at themselves. Many of them have been touted as the 'future' but the future is NOW and they are still not drawing and stuck in the mid cards DESPITE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES.

Back in the AE you were lucky to get an opportunity the competition was so intense. To see these young 'future'stars be handed opportunities on a platter for not being good enough, makes me feel sick.

THE PROBLEM ISN'T 1 PERSON. The problem is EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING.
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It's a combination of all the factors that is hurting RAW:
- Monday Night Football
- MMA

- Wrestling is no longer "cool" or popular.
- The booking/writing is poor & lacks continuity.
- No one has any heat.
- There aren't any stars.
- The titles don't mean anything.
- The wins/losses don't mean anything.
- The show is too long.
- People don't want their intelligence insulted.
- There aren't any fresh match-ups & WWE runs everything into the ground.
- There's no reason to watch each week. Nothing ever changes. There are no consequences or cliff hangers.
- There is no emotional investment, either positively or negatively, for anyone on the entire roster.\
- Too many ads, replays, recaps & media whoring.
The first 2 in bold existed 6 years ago and ratings were a point higher, sometimes even more. They aren't an excuse. The rest I could agree with. You forgot one: the sterile presentation/format of the show.
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So the lesson according to you is "be a big star from before"? It doesn't matter what The Rock does when he comes back. He could come in and just do a tired routine where he just burps his catchphrases but he still draws in people just because of his name that's already built up.

That doesn't really solve anything, just as it won't help Rock much more than short term if Johnny Depp, or some other real actor, does a movie with him.
lol at you responding to that seriously.
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