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Old 12-04-2012, 10:33 PM   #8341 (permalink)
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I think it's time to face a terrible reality.

Only the IWC cares about these different wrestlers and them getting stories and titles.

The casuals do not. They only care about John Cena. That's it. And quite frankly AJ Lee and Ryback are starting to climb their way up to being cared about by the casuals. But to be honest, I feel like Ryback has all ready lost a step with the casuals from where he was pre Hell in a cell. AJ is on her way to female version of Cena status with the casuals pretty soon. But other than that? Nothing.

Why do you think the crowd is so dead EVERY week? That's it. They don't give two shits about anyone not named John Cena.

We can analyze it all we want.

I really think it's as simple as that.

And that is a serious problem for WWE, and completely their fault by the way.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:37 PM   #8342 (permalink)
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It's a combination of all the factors that is hurting RAW:
- Monday Night Football
- MMA
- Wrestling is no longer "cool" or popular.
- The booking/writing is poor & lacks continuity.
- No one has any heat.
- There aren't any stars.
- The titles don't mean anything.
- The wins/losses don't mean anything.
- The show is too long.
- People don't want their intelligence insulted.
- There aren't any fresh match-ups & WWE runs everything into the ground.
- There's no reason to watch each week. Nothing ever changes. There are no consequences or cliff hangers.
- There is no emotional investment, either positively or negatively, for anyone on the entire roster.\
- Too many ads, replays, recaps & media whoring.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:43 PM   #8343 (permalink)
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It really is. It's scary actually how much it is.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:15 PM   #8344 (permalink)
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It really is. It's scary actually how much it is.
word ... if anyone could find the number i would love to know how many ex wcw employees are currently working in the wwe front office ....


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Old 12-05-2012, 12:11 AM   #8345 (permalink)
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Losing all those female viewers must mean WWE's attempt at catering to them with this godawful AJ storyline failed.

Good.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:29 AM   #8346 (permalink)
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I hadnt been following the ratings lately so this is pretty stunning. TNA is hovering around 1.0 rating, if TNA improves at all and WWE keeps sliding, they could become a lot closer than we thought was ever possible.

Theres no question that the 3 hour raws are hurting ratings, case in point: I post on a IWC forum and probably care about wrestling a lot more than the average casual fan, and yet *I* dont even hardly watch RAW anymore! that says it all, I suffered from "wrestling fatigue" from trying to watch 5+ hours a week, so not only did I stop watching smackdown, I dont even sit through RAW anymore. I only watch the opening and closing 20 minutes of Raw and skip the rest.

3 hours aside, there just isnt much reason to give a shit about the product right now. Wrestling isn't cool anymore, i'd be embarassed to even admit I watch it to anyone considering how much it caters to children now. Like it or not, the PG rating and kid-friendly programming is killing the product, not just because its PG but because its limiting WWE to boring, repetitive booking.

They can't do any high spots anymore, can't do any potentially dangerous moves, can't hardly have any edgy programming, can't have blood, can't have scantily clad women, there just isnt anything to get excited about, hence ratings are falling. Even hardcore fans like us are not watching loyally anymore, so the casual fan sure as fuck isn't going to be.

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You can blame the storylines and booking all you want, but was Raw 1000 really booked well? No. It was all over the place, 3 hours, and it relied heavily on nostalgia, but despite this fact it delivered ratings even without Stone Cold being on the show.

The reason why people do not watch wrestling anymore is because all of the "larger than life" characters are gone. People got attached to the extravagant looks, iconic voices, and the way they carried themselves as superstars. Now these fools think that "breaking kayfabe" is what is going to get them over. No one wants to hear about you fighting "Dewayne" they want to hear about you fighting "The Rock". These wrestlers today have no style and do not understand the concept of showmanship. No one cares about supposed "superstars" that look like people you would run into on the street. This is not about height either. The big guys dress like crap, look like crap, and carry themselves as crap too.

They had an opportunity to turn this company around at Raw 1000 by starting an Attitude Era vs PG Era storyline. Especially, since you were going to have a game promoting the exact same idea coming out later in the year . They should've had Triple H, The Rock, Stone Cold (later since he was having the surgery), The Undertaker, Chris Jericho, and Shawn Michaels form a Supreme Mega Heel stable bashing the PG Era "superstars" for killing ratings, destroying the wrestling industry, and bringing shame to their names by making comparisons between the two eras. You know, the same things that the majority of fans have been saying for the longest time. These stars know how to get "booed" and are the only people capable of putting this new era over since it is incapable of doing it on its own. They don't even need to wrestle often. They can just denounce the top 5 stars: Randy Orton, Cm Punk, Sheamus, John Cena, and Brock Lesnar(for being a baby and leaving the business), and all those who support those 5. Then they could sponsor guys from this era that they see potential in and take them under their wings to get rid of those they denounced. The other Attitude Era stars could be torn on who to support and ultimately be forced into taking sides. Team Attitude Era and Team PG Era shirts, anyone?

Fans would get used to the idea of seeing the stars interact with each other regularly via promos and matches. Eventually, people will be able to take these new wrestlers seriously and you wouldn't have alienated the older fans that tuned in to see the nostalgia because those older guys would be there in some form or fashion. You would have to tune in every week because you wouldn't know which of the Attitude Era guys would be showing up each week, who they were going to try to attack, and what method would they use to accomplish it. Would Vince side with his stars of the past or bank on these new guys to take the business to greater heights?

The level of the promo work would go up and practicing with these older stars on a regular basis could give these young guys the experience that is desperately needed. You would have clearly defined heels who aren't pushovers like these "Non-Charismatic Team Rocket Knockoffs" blasting off every week and certain wrestlers who thrive on venting their frustrations at people, would excel. There are so many directions you could go with this and the match possibilities would be interesting. The storyline would end at either WM29 or WM30, where the old stars would end up giving the new guys "their due" or have Triple H turn into his corporate mega heel role and take it from there.:hhh

Or, you do what these clowns did and end up with ratings below 3.0.
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"They weren't really supposed to turn off"
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Only the IWC cares about these different wrestlers and them getting stories and titles.
Did you conduct a poll or are you just generalising?
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Can't wait for Rocky to return and show Punk how to draw. Gonna be like Bob Ross trying to teach a toddler who can only finger paint.
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