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Old 12-04-2012, 05:32 PM   #8301 (permalink)
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A simple solution WWE can do to start righting the ship: instead of sending out Sin Cara Vs. Alberto Del Rio for no reason, or Damien Sandow Vs. Santino Marella for no reason, use this week to give them a vignette, something backstage to give them a reason to want to wrestle. Then give us their match the NEXT week. At least then the match is happening for a fucking reason. Plus it gives the commentators something to talk about.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:34 PM   #8302 (permalink)
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A simple solution WWE can do to start righting the ship: instead of sending out Sin Cara Vs. Alberto Del Rio for no reason, or Damien Sandow Vs. Santino Marella for no reason, use this week to give them a vignette, something backstage to give them a reason to want to wrestle. Then give us their match the NEXT week. At least then the match is happening for a fucking reason. Plus it gives the commentators something to talk about.
Really... that would be a refreshing return to form in some respects. I miss the vignettes... hell, some of my favourite wrestling memories are the vignettes for Perfect.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:37 PM   #8303 (permalink)
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Raw writers need to watch NXT and take notes tbh. Boom. Problems solved lol. It isn't mind blowing TV but first and foremost it makes sense, it doesn't insult your intelligence, the vast majority of people on it have a character and the the vast majority of matches have a purpose. Imagine that on your wrestling show in 2012. Mind = blown.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #8304 (permalink)
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I think there is a solution and light at the end of the tunnel lol. But it isn't something that can be fixed right away. WWE's main problem right now, to me, is their short sightedness. Because of that, nothing has meaning anymore. I think if they designated some of those writers for planning out long ranging story arcs, even if its just for the top of the card, it would give a lot of fans something to gain a genuine interest in and they'd slowly claw their audience back. At the moment, there's literally NO reason to watch WWE. None at all. Everything is missable except for when one of their legit star attractions shows up who a lot of people already have a huge personal investment in as a character. Everything is meaningless. People would rather watch something else, record Raw and watch it later. It isn't a must see television show anymore, not even for its core fanbase which is starting to erode as well as the casuals. I do believe that they can make it a must see show again but it's going to take a couple of years to build the stars they need to do it and get themselves out of this downward trend.
Ha, it's not that I doubt there's a solution. It's more that I doubt the solution is anything other than Trips pedigreeing Vince into early(ish) retirement.
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:57 PM   #8305 (permalink)
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It's a combination of all the factors that is hurting RAW:
- Monday Night Football
- MMA
- Wrestling is no longer "cool" or popular.
- The booking/writing is poor & lacks continuity.
- No one has any heat.
- There aren't any stars.
- The titles don't mean anything.
- The wins/losses don't mean anything.
- The show is too long.
- People don't want their intelligence insulted.
- There aren't any fresh match-ups & WWE runs everything into the ground.
- There's no reason to watch each week. Nothing ever changes. There are no consequences or cliff hangers.
- There is no emotional investment, either positively or negatively, for anyone on the entire roster.\
- Too many ads, replays, recaps & media whoring.

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i just sit at home and watch the tickets being sold off the ticketmaster website to see whos drawing

sometimes if the show is in town, i feel extra daring and go to the arena and watch them sell tickets IN PERSON

other day i started jerking off in the ticket both at all that DRAWING and had to be escorted out of the arena
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:58 PM   #8306 (permalink)
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:00 PM   #8307 (permalink)
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The ratings slowly deteriorating have also correlated with AJ's entire self-indulgent megapush that leads to mediocre matches and poor television. Yes, prior to WWE Raw becoming a parody of a teen Nickelodeon drama series starring AJ Lee and her pursuit for Lurve, CM Punk was doing no better than anyone else and everything was about the same level it had been for 3 years. The only thing they get is to get some company PR telling an embellished story about how great and awesome their company is for taking the "poor, little homeless girl" and made her one of the primary focuses of the entire company. You know, the same story any wrestler working the indies often have to do in sleeping in cars and hotels traveling town to town to do indy shots, except they're not perceived as marketable and attractive and would ironically be bad PR for the company knowing how the rest of the industry looks like.
I'm not saying there isn't a correlation, I even agreed with you before remember? I've never argued that AJ should be one of the main focuses of the company even as a fan of hers. But to say that AJ's push is the direct cause of the ratings drop when you consider how many problems WWE has with its product right now in generating buzz and interest is laughable and ridiculous. It's even more laughable that AJ was almost a non factor in this week's Raw and not even in the main segments of the show which drew an even lower rating than the past two weeks and yet you are still blaming AJ as a main reason for a low drawing rating for this week .

You make some very valid points but you are also very clouded in your bias towards AJ and "Team Steph" as you sometimes like to call it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:12 PM   #8308 (permalink)
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Ratings will get back to 3.0 when Rock wins the title. Rumble to Mania is always the peak rating time.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:19 PM   #8309 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind reruns at this point. I watch my old Raw episodes on my bitchin VHS with more excitement than I do any of the nonsense that's going on right now and I already know the outcome.

With every storyline (if you can call it that) going on right now, either it's going on for too long because they don't know how to end it or it ends within a month because they saw something new and shiny. They have the talent. Granted, there isn't much of it but WWE simply doesn't give much of a fuck anymore to do what they should be doing with that talent because they truly believe that their shit doesn't stink. In reality, they smell like the 125th Street train station.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:27 PM   #8310 (permalink)
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Punk with them ratings!

Seriously though giving Hornswoggle the belt would probably draw more fans....
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