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Old 12-04-2012, 04:28 PM   #8271 (permalink)
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The problem is not the 3 hours format. The problem is the PG Era. They have to realize that this crap era is hurting their product...
The problem is the booking. They've put off viewers for so long with crappy booking. You can have a good product under PG.

Also, three hours of wrestling is too much wrestling in one shot for anyone.
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:29 PM   #8272 (permalink)
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I doubt they care as much as they would if this were during any other time of the year. They know once Punk/Rock starts, the buzz will come back. Starbuck mentions that 6 million people saw Punk lay out the Rock. Well, they clearly didn't leave over night. That was six months ago, the viewers fizzled out because the product is in a garbage state right now. This Ryback project is a fail, and it's a shame that Cena got injured because if Punk/Cena carried on I doubt the product would be as shitty as it is right now. We would have had at least something worth watching. Right now, there is nothing. Not until Rock comes back.

God, Punk/Rock can't come soon enough.
It's all Ryback's fault? Cena/Punk wasn't doing anything to help so I don't know why you're saying that either tbh.

6 million people saw Punk lay out Rock on Raw 1000 and from that point on Punk has been promoted as THE guy on Raw. Up until that point he was second fiddle, third fiddle even, and for the brief Brock/HHH program heading into Summerslam he took a backseat but other than that it's been all Punk as the central and focal point of the show. You give Punk a pass for the past 6 months while Ryback's been around for 6 weeks and it's his fault? This is why I can't take you seriously. You're WAY too much of a mark to see straight. The fact that people are going to come back to watch Rock in his first title feud in a decade isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for your boy. Regardless of whether Punk was champion or not, people would still be tuning in come January because it's the Rock going for the belt and nothing else. That's the hook. Punk will just happen to be along for the ride. Maybe he'll get a win out of it, maybe not. I think he could beat Rock clean, go on to end the steak at Mania and you'd still be blaming Ryback if Punk's segments were doing shit lol. Take your little marky glasses off please. You'll start to see much more clearly.
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A lot of the stuff WWE have been trying lately has not been as grandiose as I had hoped. Nothing that happens on the live, 3-hour show between the first twenty minutes & the last twenty minutes matters at all, ever. That's over two hours of completely wasted time.

Ryback is over. If people are still doubting that, then I don't know what to tell them. But he is not so over that you put him as the main event of continuous Pay-Per-Views in a row & have him opening & closing the A-Show. A.J. Lee, although I love her as a performer, has run her course with her current direction. She needs revamped pretty badly. Beating Tamina Snuka with a roll-up in a throw-away three minute match is not going to benefit anyone. Vince McMahon coming back to talk for a beyond stale Vickie Guerrero is not the solution.

I think the biggest problem is all of the replays, ads, recaps & shilling. That is legitimately an hour of the show every single week. People change the channel during that shit. Especially when they have other viewing options, like Monday Night Football. Oh, mid-match commercial? I'm turning to ESPN.

The entire layout of the show is old fashioned & dated. It's not 1998 anymore. They need a different format. One for the world of 2012, with DVR & short attention spans. They're booking the show like it's WCW Monday Nitro without any of the mid-card talent. There is not a Cruiserweight Division, a credible tag division, an IC division people care about or even contenders in the U.S. division. It's a bunch of guys killing time in-between nWo promos.
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The problem is everything but the wrestlers need a long hard look at themselves. Some of them have to either improve or go.
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The problem is not the 3 hours format. The problem is the PG Era. They have to realize that this crap era is hurting their product...
No, the problem is three hours.

Who wants to sit through 20 ad breaks and countless replays?
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Old 12-04-2012, 04:32 PM   #8276 (permalink)
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The show sucks.

I mean we can all come on here and say "oh that's the best Raw in a while"...yeah...it's not.

The writing sucks. The wrestling sucks. It's a terrible product. And it's not just that. It's the presentation. The graphics, the social media aspect, all of it. It turns people off because it is B-O-R-I-N-G.
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The show sucks.

I mean we can all come on here and say "oh that's the best Raw in a while"...yeah...it's not.

The writing sucks. The wrestling sucks. It's a terrible product. And it's not just that. It's the presentation. The graphics, the social media aspect, all of it. It turns people off because it is B-O-R-I-N-G.
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I personally think they need to rip shit up and start from scratch because everything is just dated/boring/redundant/stale as fuck. New set design, RED RING ROPES, new theme, NEW BOSS :hhh, new direction. They need to let the world know that things are well and truly getting shaken up. Merge the rosters, combine the world titles, state that things are going to be very different and we ARE entering a new era and then actually follow through on that promise and do it. Have 1 authority figure that is in the background as part of the show and not the central focus of the show. Have villains people can hate and heroes will be born.

I feel like I'm writing a PR piece here lol. Basically, the need to legitimately shake shit up and make some drastic and visible changes. The shock of something like that happening would have a lot of people watching. From there they would have the platform to keep those people watching as they fully transitioned into the new era etc.
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I mean, if the big, promoted Vinny Mac appearance is to patronise Vickie for three minutes then fuck off again, yeah, 3 million sounds about right. First half hour and last half hour of Raw were good last night, and that's it, but I don't blame anyone who didn't bother tuning back in for the latter.
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