[Duke Silver]

Originally Posted by Choke2Death

Ratings are based on facts, so yeah, I don't know what you're trying to challenge here. Can it be made more crystal clear when Raw 1000 gets nearly 4.0 but the next week, they are back down again? We can pretty much establish it as a fact that the returning fans saw Punk close the show with the "big storyline" and had no interest in it, so they tuned out and went back to whatever they do around that time.

Yeah, expect that's not a "fact". It's you making an assumption and trying to pass it off as a fact.

Ratings are down and Punk isn't some kind of wonder draw. Those are statements to work off of. Not "Hey guys, thanks for tuning out to show support in your hatred for Punk lol". That's just... dumb.

[roadkill_]

Originally Posted by Duke Droese

Yeah, expect that's not a "fact". It's you making an assumption and trying to pass it off as a fact.

Ratings are down and Punk isn't some kind of wonder draw. Those are statements to work off of. Not "Hey guys, thanks for tuning out to show support in your hatred for Punk lol". That's just... dumb.

On the internet, we've had access to this thing called the quarter hour now. Had it since the 90s, often even by Tuesday night. Now, shall we discuss Punks quarter hour ratings?

[-Skullbone-]

Originally Posted by roadkill_

On the internet, we've had access to this thing called the quarter hour now. Had it since the 90s, often even by Tuesday night. Now, shall we discuss Punks quarter hour ratings?

Absolutely you can. Although, you might want to take a squiz at third hour weekly trend as well (such as in this past week's case where it likely contributes to the huge drop off).

[MrAxew]

Originally Posted by Duke Droese

Yeah, expect that's not a "fact". It's you making an assumption and trying to pass it off as a fact.

Ratings are down and Punk isn't some kind of wonder draw. Those are statements to work off of. Not "Hey guys, thanks for tuning out to show support in your hatred for Punk lol". That's just... dumb.

He didn't say they tuned out of hatred, he meant out of dis-interest.

[Falkono]

As someone else said a huge part of the problem is there are no stars right now. On the contrary to what the Punk defence force are saying wwe has done everything they could for Punk to make him a star and it just didn't work. He has had possibly the best year and a half of any wrestler for a long long time. People try and pass it off and say but Cena was ahead of him, which isn't true. After survivor series 2011 Punk started to main event. He main even ted the very next ppv TLC ahead of guys like Triple H. Main even ted the Rumble, other then the rumble itself. At mania he had the 2nd to last match. Rock vs Cena was always going to main event Mania as it was years in the making. That is the match most people wanted to see.

The day after mania Brock came back. Again naturally that would be the main event.

Fast forward to august 2012 and this is where Punk truley became the main focus. He started to main event again and at Night of champions it marked a year of ppv,s where he was undefeated. At the biggest show in decades raw 1000 he was the main guy by taking out the rock and cena. They could of given the ending to anyone who has been with the wwe over the past 20 odd years but they gave it to him. And he has been in the main event since. That is nearly 5 months.

He has gone 377 days as champion.
In 3 days time he will surpass Cena's time as champion. Which will mean he will have had the longest title reign since 1984. It will be the 7th longest reign in history. The 5th individual longest reign.

I can go on and on but there is no need to. Punk has been one of the main things about we for a long long time and is one of the reasons ratings are down. That doesn't mean he is the main reason it means he is simply one of the reasons.
He is not a big star and after everything they have one for him he never will be.

[SPCDRI]

CM Punk is Diesel minus 1 foot of height and add about 15 wrestling moves.

He said he was The Man in WWE as WWE champ. It was on him to put asses in the seats. He took the responsibility now he has to bear some.

He has to bear some blame for 2.2 quarter hours.

[Snoth]

Where's this 2.3 for the ME coming from? Just curious, wanna see it. All I see is the rock316ae making that claim

[Coffey]

Originally Posted by Falkono

As someone else said a huge part of the problem is there are no stars right now.

See my sig. *hint, hint*

[Mister Hands]

Originally Posted by SPCDRI

CM Punk is Diesel minus 1 foot of height and add about 15 wrestling moves.

He said he was The Man in WWE as WWE champ. It was on him to put asses in the seats. He took the responsibility now he has to bear some.

He has to bear some blame for 2.2 quarter hours.

Yeah, the champ should never be in such a low-rated segment. But, man, what a shitty time for anyone to be an unproven champ. There is literally no one there to make him the star he needs to be.

[RatedR10]

Originally Posted by WallofShame

Where's this 2.3 for the ME coming from? Just curious, wanna see it. All I see is the rock316ae making that claim

pretty sure Meltzer tweeted out something about it.

Terrible number. I'm a Punk fan, but as WWE Champion in the main event, that's just bad.