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Old 11-29-2012, 03:50 PM   #8211 (permalink)
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Yeah, I agree w/Starbuck. Anyone who still truly believes that Punk can draw is delusional beyond repair. Please don't try to throw random numbers at me for segments that drew better than the rest of the garbage on the show. Chocolate covered shit is still shit.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:57 PM   #8212 (permalink)
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:58 PM   #8213 (permalink)
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Oh fuck, my bad. I've been MIA for a week so I completely forgot to never agree w/anything you say. You're an awful poster and your opinions are shit.

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I really don't understand this thread.


My own opinion is that the brand itself draws, but I still come in here to see the breakdowns out of curiosity. I don't understand why if Punk is a draw or not is such a heated debate. I like the guy's work either way and have been a fan since the Hardy feud, others hate him and that's all well and good. Each to their own. I don't see what proving he is a draw or not will achieve, this thread has the same argument every week and it goes nowhere until the next breakdown where even if Punk gains 1m viewers or has a low overrun, its still the fucking same cretin fanboys/haters arguing the same thing.
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No one draws ratings on the roster except Cena and even he doesn't draw ratings that well anymore. What else is there to talk about?
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So Punk/Kane ended up doing the lowest? 2.3? If true, that's brutal. It's strange, because Punk always used to have respectable numbers for his segments compared to the average rating, but I think he's been becoming even less of a draw as his heel run continues. For example a year ago a Punk/Cena match would gain a million viewers, but just a couple of weeks ago it got less than half of that. Earlier this year Punk and Kane had matches that did average numbers in the 10PM slot, but now in the last segment/overrun they're doing well below average. I didn't give it much thought before, but that report about how the whole Punk and Heyman making fun of Lawler's heart attack turning people off from Punk may not be entirely off the ball, because since then his numbers have been very weak.

It sucks, but with past few weeks in mind I think Punk is not just not doing anything to help the ratings, but he's actually hurting them. With what I said above, I also think when he turned heel it hurt his popularity as well. He was easily the second biggest face in the company and kids were really catching onto him as a second to Cena, and of course he always had the teen/adult male audience on his side. Turning him heel, while making him more entertaining than what he was as a generic face to me and perhaps his core fanbase, turned the casuals and kids off from him.

He should still be able to sell title matches on PPV on the fact he's been champ for over a year and he's the heel people want to see lose the title, and he'd maybe even be able to draw in more than normal if he actually defended his title (like if he defended it against Kane this week I'm sure the number wouldn't have been anywhere near as low), but as far as general appeal on his name alone, it's been deteriorating since his heel turn and as I said before, with his mocking of Lawler's heart attack with Heyman, it's been completely wiped out and now casuals just plain don't want to see him.

Punk should still keep the title till Royal Rumble of course since Punk/Rock is what they've been building up for months, and I still do believe despite his negative appeal it wouldn't hurt to keep the strap on him till Mania since there will be Rock, Lesnar, and Taker/HHH to balance things out if they want Ryback to be the one to take the title off Punk.

But yeah, that's my thoughts on that for the 0 of you that care.

Edit: One other reason I'm leaning towards the numbers being on Punk this week if the 2.3 number is true is because besides Ryback in the overrun (if you count him), he was the only big star in the third hour and the number declined very sharply. I'm not sure there's ever been a fall that big from hour 2 to hour 3 since the 3rd hour stuff started.
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I really don't understand this thread.

My own opinion is that the brand itself draws, but I still come in here to see the breakdowns out of curiosity. I don't understand why if Punk is a draw or not is such a heated debate. I like the guy's work either way and have been a fan since the Hardy feud, others hate him and that's all well and good. Each to their own. I don't see what proving he is a draw or not will achieve, this thread has the same argument every week and it goes nowhere until the next breakdown where even if Punk gains 1m viewers or has a low overrun, its still the fucking same cretin fanboys/haters arguing the same thing.
Its quite clear that punk is no draw but he isnt a ratings killer either. Kind of ridiculous to blame the rating of a 3hour show on one man but whatever. As far as I am concerned he is either hit or miss and the times he gains its nothing spectacular but well yeah.. The Show itself is horrible. 3hours are too long and even Cena has only a lil bit left of his drawing power. They are just lazy with booking and write show to show without trying till the Rock appears.

And if they dont start booking thing correctly when the rock is there i see ratings declining again even with the rock since rock wont be gaining 3million viewers to save the show. He didnt in his feud against Cena which was horrible btw and and he wont now.

Just make everything interesting so people watch the whole show and not just the rock parts. And fucking return to 2hours. I thought they would try using that time for showcasing the talent they have, giving them more mic time and shit but thats probably too much for them...

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Edit: If that number is true about the match with kane... BIG OUCH

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