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Old 11-22-2012, 06:06 PM   #7991 (permalink)
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I think the CAPS LOCK might be turning some people off but I actually agree whole-heartedly with this statement. A big part of the problem is that WWE have no faith in their current stars. Then, instead of trying to help them shine brighter, they just cut their legs out from under them & leave them high & dry while hoping stars from yesteryear continue to bail them out. That won't work forever. There is not always going to be a Rock, 'Taker or Austin to show up & increase the buyrates.

If WWE treats someone like they are not a star, why will the fans think they are a star?
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:00 PM   #7992 (permalink)
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You know what Punk's smelling in your sig? BUTTHURT.
he is right tho, there will be a time where Rock, Taker, Triple H, Cena, Punk, heck even freaking Ryback (who is almost as old as cena/punk) won't be there anymore, and the supposedly up and coming current stars like ziggler, Barret, rhodes, Sandow, don't get the proper booking, push and story lines they deserve, they can't keep t...ting the whole show to a bunch of part timers at best for the rest of their career to keep pushing ratings and buys

like Walk-in said, If WWE treats someone like they are not a star, why will the fans think they are a star?, that's why recently most IWC members are happy at the inclution of Ambrose, Rollins and Roman reigns in the WWE landscape, and we are expecting, almost praying they don't fuck this up, these 3 guys and mostly Ambrose and Rollins are the long future of the WWE, and if they screw this up (which us, being the negative nancies that we are, think they will) it speaks volumes that WWE can't do shit and they don't care anymore about the product itself

and like most people here said, sure, the WWE belt could change hands from punk to ryback, or heck, the minute rock gets it, but what will happen when that doesn't draw either?, will Punk Haters still blame punk for the low draw rates? (obviously they will, they are stupid that way), or will they finally accept that the whole product is crap and it's not helping their stars to be in such a mess of booking/storyline mediocrity?
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:37 PM   #7993 (permalink)
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A year of being the champ and having a Hogan style booking where he never loses and he still can't draw. Least seen champion in history.
This makes it very apparent that you have no idea what Hogan style booking is.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:38 PM   #7994 (permalink)
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at that overrun rating.

A full year of a crappy title reign later.

2.6 ratings had become the norm.

He should have had celebrations for those record viewership losses too.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:54 PM   #7995 (permalink)
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You know what Punk's smelling in your sig? BUTTHURT.
He's right though, Punk isn't a draw, no one on the main roster is including Cena, the myth that Cena still brings in people needs to end.

People only tune in for the old stars now.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:59 PM   #7996 (permalink)
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When Rock was at his peak as the top draw, wasn't he mostly chasing the title rather than holding it? I think in 2000 he only had the belt for like a third of the year. Rest was HHH & Angle.

Punk ain't a draw (nor is anyone right now), but obviously there's more to a title than draw power. Politics, merchandise sales (wasn't Punk's DVD #1 for several weeks?), house show buyrates, PPV buyrates, social media trending, etc., etc.

If people aren't watching Raw to see Punk have no balloons, but are consistently selling out house shows to see Punk get his ass kicked by Ryback, well, ying-yang, ya know?

At least Punk isn't filling only 1/3 the seats at MSGarden shows like Nash did. He's moving around as much merch as Cena (so they say). I'm sure all of that factors in. There is a market for Punk out there, there is a crowd that wants to see him, but just doesn't want to see him in shitty storylines.
Such as feuding with senior citizen after senior citizen.

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Old 11-22-2012, 10:53 PM   #7997 (permalink)
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wow.even his "celebration" didnt make people care.
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I have to admit, these ratings for Punk's title reign has been so disappointing. I really don't know if it's due to CM Punk or just the crappy direction that the company has been going. I think it's all of those factors. If there was one segment that I predicted right in terms of losing viewers for this past week's show, it would be for the lame Great Khali/Hornswoggle segment. Saw that coming from a mile away.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:46 PM   #7999 (permalink)
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Punk fans, you have to admit that Punk has been afforded luxuries that other wrestlers have not. You can't keep saying he is the only one who has had his character murdered and been placed in terrible storylines. Did he get his WWE title by defeating his opponent in an 18 second joke match at Wrestlemania? No. Did he get stuck in a 5-month feud with Del Rio? No. He has been allowed to feud with Jericho, Cena, and has an upcoming feud with The Rock, but despite that he has had a non-memorable title reign. I am not saying he is solely responsible for the terrible ratings, but at some point you just have to cut your losses. I think it would do Punk a lot of good to go back to chasing the title.

Unfortunately, no one besides the part timers are draws. Every wrestler on the roster is stale in some way. Either the character is stale and the story is good or the character is good and the story sucks or both the character and the story suck. It is very depressing to know that the creative staff cannot come up with great, consistent storylines anymore. It cannot be that hard to do. I came up with a storyboard for all of the main event wrestlers from now until Wrestlemania, created character development, and filled in the plotholes from current storylines in less than 20mins.
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Honestly, Punk is the best option. If they make someone else the champ, they will get lower ratings. Punk is the reason they are still managing to stay alive with the ratings, if not for him they'd probably be down to 2.0's because of the stupid 3 hour with so much filler and pointless replays/touts.

Yeah, so you should all be thankful to Cm Punk. I personally have fast-forwarded every single Raw since its gone 3 hours, i'm surprised they even manage 2.8's, which is why Cm Punk deserves credit.
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