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Old 11-22-2012, 12:19 PM   #7981 (permalink)
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:30 PM   #7982 (permalink)
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Just heard Ryback drew 200,000 buys legit for Hell in a cell PPV. Biggest rated QH this week. He's on a roll for sure.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:31 PM   #7983 (permalink)
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Now that's a moment.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:34 PM   #7984 (permalink)
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The above post is a great lead-in here....

Enough of this American ratings breakdown, how about a much needed UK ratings breakdown to mull over?

WWE Late Night Raw - Monday 12th November 2012
AVERAGE = 168k (8.29%)
Q1 - 129k (3.76%)
Q2 - 130k (4.43%)
Q3 - 187k (6.62%)
Q4 - 135k (5.27%)
Q5 - 230k (9.44%)
Q6 - 151k (7.65%)
Q7 - 143k (7.73%)
Q8 - 99k (6.05%)
Q9 - 178k (12.10%)
Q10 - 125k (9.97%)
Q11 - 155k (13.25%)
Q12 - 118k (11.24%)
Overrun - 188k (17.70%)

The top five 'five minute segments' were:

Q5 - 70 minutes to 75 minutes into show: 254k (11.39%)
Q3 - 30 minutes to 35 minutes into show: 240k (8.09%)
Q5 - 65 minutes to 70 minutes into show: 232k (8.72%)
Q2 - 25 minutes to 30 minutes into show: 210.5k (7.24%)
Q5 - 60 minutes to 65 minutes into show: 205k (8.21%)

And a demographic breakdown:

Children 4-15 - 22k (13.0%)
Adults 16-24 - 43k (25.4%)
Adults 25-34 - 66k (39.4%)
Adults 35-44 - 11.5k (6.8%)
Adults 45-54 - 9k (5.6%)
Adults 55-64 - 2k (1.0%)
Adults 65+ - 15k (8.7%)

So most popular with Adults 25-35 and then going down to kids.

Includes anyone who recorded it and watched it within seven days of original broadcast.

In comparison, over here Raw 1000 averaged 315k (13.63%), peaking with a huge 479k (20.18%) 20 minutes into Hour 2 which was when The Rock returned. Ironically, linked in the post above...
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:46 PM   #7985 (permalink)
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I just purchased 2 CM Punk shirts!!!!!
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #7986 (permalink)
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Top rated show 2004: American Idol 16.5
Top rated show 2012: Sunday Night Football 12.9

Percentage change: 21%

RAW 2004: 3.67
RAW 2012: 3.06

Percentage change:16%



I loled when you said you DVRed back in 2004 so you just assume everybody else did then too. You don't represent the entire viewing audience, sorry. And DVRs are accounted for in ratings anyway. That isn't really what is changing. Don't feel like writing a 5 page paper on how consumption of media has changed, tho.
Not entirely sure what you found so amusing that you LOL'd I didn't say I represented the entire viewing audience or that everybody else used DVR's (which is accounted for in ratings)...I was making the point that alternative ways of viewing shows have been available for years (including Youtube and downloading)...it's not just some new phenomenon that is all of a sudden causing ratings to suddenly plummet to the levels they are now at the tail end of 2012 like you and others like to imply. I could just as easily LOL at you comparing the viewing figures of completely unrelated shows to WWE. Of course viewing figures for things like American Idol will rapidly disappear over a shorter period of time...it was an interesting new concept to begin with (plus 2004 was still a time when those kind of shows were booming in popularity) but fast forward to 2012 and it's been same old shit year in, year out. It's been even more monotonous than WWE. American Idol may have morphed into The X Factor but it hasn't really changed much...pretty much mirrors the situation in the UK (we had Pop Idol which also became X Factor) where the bubble has burst on these kinds of shows and they don't pull the viewers they once did. Unlike WWE which has been around for decades, American/Pop Idol was a fad. It was never going to maintain a high viewership long term without things like developing characters and interesting storylines (not really possible on shows like that).

It's the 'same old shit' mentatlity that's got them into that mess, but they don't care so long as they can still convince idiots to spend their money by phoning in to vote for whichever acts they have on each week. Actually, in that regard it's not such a different situation from the mess WWE haas gotten itself into at all...same old shit, viewers go down but so long as the kids buy the Cena merchandise and keep the money coming in, then things won't change much.

As far as Raw ratings go, you missed my point there as well. I said twice already (but I'll say it a third time, just for you) that ratings remained on an even keel for most of the last decade (after the Attitude Era bandwagon jumpers left), even going back up towards higher levels when decent new stars were created (Cena and Batista)...my concern is that a combination of the shit that WWE have been putting out (especially for the last couple of years, asides from the odd highlight from guys like Rock/Triple H/Undertaker/Brock) along with the now 3 hour shows are causing figures to drop a lot more than the norm for WWE.

My guess at this point is that if WWE had taken the direction it has recently back in 2004, than you'd likely see an even bigger drop than the 16% or even 21% you've mentioned by the end of 2012. That's not because people's viewing habits have rapidly changed all of a sudden. It's simply because WWE Raw has become 90% 'same old shit' garbage with nothing 'must see' about it most weeks anymore. When somebody tunes into the show on Monday and sees the likes of Ryback vs Tensai and Cesaro vs Brodus Clay, the exact same matches that were on the show a few weeks ago with the exact same guys winning as before...well it hardly inspires them to carry on watching does it?

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You say that no one can draw, but you dont know that for sure.
I mean if ratings have been in the shitter with Punk as champion, maybe, just maybe they should try pushing someone else.
It certainly cant hurt.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:12 PM   #7988 (permalink)
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I think there's just a big disconnect between Vince McMahon & reality.

Vince McMahon seems to think that wrestlers used to draw, so he tried to change the industry to make it so that the brand name draws. This has worked, to an extent, as people will pay to see Wrestlemania or The Royal Rumble. But they will not simply buy anything that has the WWE logo on it.

Reality is that stars themselves do still draw, just like in Hollywood, and no matter what Vince McMahon does, that will never change. All of his attempts to make the brand draw instead of stars just sabotages potential money as he squanders potential resources by lessening the impact of his stars in an effort to provide the "circus act" show that provides something for everyone.

The show should be built around stars and they company should be working to create stars. Instead they seem to care about more people talking about WWE instead of paying to see the stars. They seem terrified of being burned by big name guys or some shit. It just screams insecurity from the top. No matter what Vince McMahon does, the landscape of professional wrestling is not going to change. It's always going to be about good vs. evil, drama & relatable characters. If you try to do anything other than that, it doesn't work.

A WWE Presents: Gimmick Pay-Per-View doesn't matter when the fans don't care about or can't relate to anyone on the card. When it's a bunch of people trading wins/losses with each other for months, leading to apathy and no heat.

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Lol at people going "U SEE, PUNK CANT DRAW!" We know.

Punk isn't a ratings draw, but guess what, nobody is. Hell Cena got a lower rating than Punk. Nobody draws ratings on the roster. The only ones that do are Rock, Brock, HHH and Taker because they always get top billing and promotion for big events. "WRESTLEMANIA IS COMING UP, ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR ALL THE GUYS WHO ARE NEVER HERE AND IN THEIR FORTIES" its that mentality thats killing the product.
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A year of being the champ and having a Hogan style booking where he never loses and he still can't draw. Least seen champion in history.
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