View Poll Results: Do Wrestlers Draw, Or Does the WWE Brand Draw?
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Wrestlers Draw
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39.53% |
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WWE Brand draws
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60.47% |
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11-21-2012, 04:24 PM
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#7981 (permalink)
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Little Poppa Pump
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Three hours is too much and before somebody says "Well WCW went three hours and got better ratings" different era, different time and different attitude in terms of where the actual effort WWE is willing to put into its storylines at the moment three hours is definitely too much one storyline will not keep viewers watching. As far as characters go WWE has a great roster at the moment the tag team division PTP, team hell no, Rey and Botch Cara, Int Airstrike, Uso's and Epico,Primo and Rosa's ass, Mid card Barrett, Sandow, Kingston, The Miz, Cesaro, Truth, Ryder, Marrella and 3MB. The problem is WWE just needs to do somthing with the roster why don't they look back in their archives and see how just a simple tag team feud with backstage interviews, brawls and special match types drew them big and how mid card feud could be turned personal just like how they book the main event.
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11-21-2012, 10:31 PM
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#7982 (permalink)
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Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
The problem is bigger than who is holding the belt. When you really break it down, it is literally a prop. I can't believe there are still superfans who think that changing who has that prop will cause ratings to skyrocket. It is such a stupid thing to think.
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11-21-2012, 10:48 PM
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#7983 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Please guys OPEN YOUR EYES, Punk is not a draw, nobody gives a shit about him except the indie marks.
This is killing the industry, the ratings has been decreasing for the past year.....yeah, the year he has been holding the belt.
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11-21-2012, 11:21 PM
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Fired by SCOTT STEINER
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimbus
Please guys OPEN YOUR EYES, Punk is not a draw, nobody gives a shit about him except the indie marks.
This is killing the industry, the ratings has been decreasing for the past year.....yeah, the year he has been holding the belt.
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The ratings have been decreasing for the last 12 years...
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11-21-2012, 11:24 PM
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Gamblin' Lives, One Day At A Time
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
So, is there going to be no breakdown this week due to it being the week of Thanksgiving? Or is it just another case of a late breakdown. Do I need to pull a breakdown out of thin air again to keep this thread talking...? 
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11-22-2012, 12:25 AM
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Learning to break kayfabe
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Yeah, it's a shame. All that talent gone to waste. Reminds me of when Shawn finally got the belt in 96, and business didn't get any better, and at times even got worse. He was one of, if not the most talented worker the WWE ever had up to that point, I was so anxious to finally see him get the ball, and WWE blew it. We all know Shawn had more than enough talent to be a huge draw, so it clearly wasn't his fault. It was bad timing (poor roster, still reeling from steroid scandal, head to head with NWO storyline) along with poor creative direction with his character.
Likewise, I'd say many of us know Punk has the talent. Hell, A LOT of guys on that roster have the talent, but as pointed out so many times in this thread, WWE is failing in its creative direction, and has been failing for so long that inertia is against them.
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11-22-2012, 02:38 AM
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Finally....
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
In a rarity, the highest rated segment of the entire show was the Ryback interview and Ryback vs. Tensai match which did a 2.91 quarter. Kofi Kingston vs. Wade Barrett lost 298,000 viewers. A Paul Heyman and C.M. Punk backstage interview plus Aksana vs. Kaitlyn lost 80,000 viewers. Brodus Clay vs. Antonio Cesaro and the John Cena Make a Wish segment gained 376,000 viewers. The segment with Vickie Guerrero, A.J. Lee, Cena where Dolph Ziggler attacked gained 195,000 viewers to a 2.85 quarter. I have to say I was shocked because 9 p.m. is usual growth and I thought this would be a big one, and that’s as low a 9 p.m. growth period as they’ve had. Randy Orton vs. Alberto Del Rio 2/3 falls lost 122,000 viewers. Great Khali vs. Primo & Epico lost 186,000 viewers. The Miz vs. David Otunga gained 223,000 viewers which for those two has to be considered a success. Sheamus vs. Damien Sandow gained 105,000 viewers at 10 p.m. The A.J. and Dolph Ziggler locker room deal which ended with the Cena and Ziggler brawl lost 241,000 viewers. Not good at all considering the nature of that segment. Kane & Daniel Bryan vs. Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara lost 266,000 viewers to a 2.50 quarter. Airing clips of all the Cena angles on the show gained 101,000 viewers. The C.M. Punk 365th day in-ring celebration gained 419,000 viewers to a 2.87 overrun.
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11-22-2012, 06:42 AM
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Goatin' ain't easy
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
Interesting stuff from Big Dave and Alvarez on Observer Radio today talking about Ratings and Punks lack of drawing power.
As they say, it's thanks to The Rock that Punk is still champ really. Usually when someone does regular poor numbers they just put the belt back on Cena, but cause Rock wants to face Punk and win the title, Punk keeps retaining.
So Punk marks - thank :Rock that Punk hasn't been buried yet.
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11-22-2012, 06:48 AM
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#7989 (permalink)
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Finally....
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
It was one of the lowest overruns ever for RAW. Poor.
Yes Punk marks, bow to the GOAT. :Rock2
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11-22-2012, 06:50 AM
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FEAR THE BROCKTAGON
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Re: **The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)
all over the place with that one. opening did better than ending, Ziggler/Cena/AJ backstage lost viewers but the recaps of it gained, rest also gone crazy.
Oh well whatever I never understand these breakdowns anyways.
^^ I would think that is the main reason Punk has held it this long, The Rock wants him at Rumble. 
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