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post #7951 of 9175 (permalink) Old 11-22-2012, 07:51 AM
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Yeah 5th lowest ever. Mental.

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Interesting stuff from Big Dave and Alvarez on Observer Radio today talking about Ratings and Punks lack of drawing power.

As they say, it's thanks to The Rock that Punk is still champ really. Usually when someone does regular poor numbers they just put the belt back on Cena, but cause Rock wants to face Punk and win the title, Punk keeps retaining.

So Punk marks - thank :Rock that Punk hasn't been buried yet.
Punk marks just cant admit that punk cant draw.
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Punk marks just cant admit that punk cant draw.
There's a lot of Punk fans here saying that he doesn't draw so you're either not paying any attention or that's a very weak troll attempt. The big problem is that no one else on the show is drawing either. No matter what the ratings are below 3.0, even if Cena, Punk, Ryback, Sheamus etc are featured prominently.

What many say though is that drawing power is pretty irrelevant to whether you think someone is good or not. People that try to troll by using ratings come off as the biggest mainstream wannabes.
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Rock responsible for Punk's long reign, eh?
Hmmm, is the Rock also the one behind the shitty story lines in order to deliberately push ratings down to make for a bigger spike when he (and Lesnar) return for RtWM?

I don't think ratings necessarily have a direct correlation to length of title reigns.

Wasn't Nash allegedly the lowest drawing champion, at least up to that point, and yet he also held the belt for a year?

Shawn, as I pointed out earlier, also didn't improve business and yet he held the title 8 months straight, and then won it back shortly thereafter.

Same with Bret's 2nd reign which lasted 8 months.

Were ratings up in 2003 during HHH's 9 month reign? I'll have to check.

From what I've read, there's a lot of politics involved with title runs. I heard that Bret would have it put in his contract that he had to be champion for at least X amount of days per year. So regardless of how he drew, he was guaranteed to be champ.
I've read that Shawn was asked to drop the belt several times during his reign, but he bitched and threatened to jump to WCW, so they kept it on him.
I read Billy Graham brought up business during his reign, but it was already pre-determined before he got it that he was just a transitional champ for Backlund, so regardless of being a draw, he was forced to job.

In Punk's DVD he said at MITB he didn't re-sign until the PPV had already started, and Vince said Punk had him over a barrel. He clearly was really going to leave and so likely was not scheduled to get the belt. He probably added that as a stipulation for re-signing, and it wouldn't surprise me if Punk pulled a Bret and had it put in his contract that he had to have the belt for this long.

I also heard HHH moving up the corporate ladder had a hand in the decision for longer title reigns, i.e., Punk & Sheamus, in order to bring prestige and hype back to title changes.

I don't know how true every one of these things is, but it does lead to the conclusion that ratings=/=title reign.

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So everything is doing bad in the ratings because the show sucks. What else is there to say?

Not one thing got over a 3.0. I know WWE doesn't value ratings like they used to, but god damn, take a hint and improve your product.

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It's tough to draw for anyone in what could possibly be the worst environment of creative/booking the WWE has seen in more than 15 years.
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Airing clips of all the Cena angles on the show gained 101,000 viewers.
Says the Cena clips drew 101,000 viewers. Clips was 2 minutes long in a 15 minute quarter

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Says Khali Vs. Primo/Epico lost 186,000 viewers. Was a 1 minute match in a 15 minute quarter



Q1- 2.91 rating. = Ryback promo, Ryback Vs. Tensai, 1 commercial break

Q2- Lost 298,000 viewers = Kingston Vs. Barrett, 1 commercial break

Q3- Lost 80,000 viewers = Various videos and backstage promos, Divas Match, 2 commercial breaks

Q4- Gained 376,000 viewers = Cesaro Vs. Truth, 1 commercial break, start of AJ/Cena/Vickie,Ziggler segment

Q5 9PM - Gained 195,000 viewers = AJ/Cena/Vickie/Ziggler segment, 1 commercial break, start of Orton Vs. Del Rio

Q6- Lost 122,000 viewers = Orton VS. Del Rio, 1 commercial break, backstage segment

Q7- Lost 186,000 viewers = 2 commercial break, Khali Vs. Primo/Epico, backstage segment, start of Miz Vs. Otunga

Q8- Gained 223,000 viewers = End of Miz Vs. Otunga, 1 commercial break, Sheamus/Big Show segment

Q9 10PM - Gained 105,000 viewers = End of Sheamus/Big show segment, Sheamus Vs. Sandow, 1 commercial break

Q10- Lost 241,000 viewers = End of Sheamus Vs. Sandow, backstage segment, Cena/Ziggler backstage brawl, 2 commercial breaks

Q11- Lost 266,000 viewers = Backstage segment, Bryan/Kane Vs. Mysterio/Sin Cara, 1 commercial break

Q12 - Gained 101,000 viewers = End of Bryan/Kane Vs. Mysterio/Sin Cara, 1 commercial break, Cena/AJ/Ziggler recap, Start of CM Punk celebration

Overrun 11PM- Gained 419,000 viewers = CM Punk celebration continues


Many segments and matches went into 2 quarters and therefore hard to determine how it did.
Not much in high drops or high gains. A bit all over the place, just like the show itself. Just a overall lack of intrest in the product right from the start of the show.

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DAT RYBACK!

Just read Punk/Taker for the title/streak is the plan for Mania 29 which wont work at all because punk is way past needing a WM star-rub, now he needs a legitimate win. Ryback/Taker will be much better option imo. Ryback just needs the rub, he doesn't need to win.


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DAT RYBACK!

Just read Punk/Taker for the title/streak is the plan for Mania 29 which wont work at all. Ryback/Taker will be much better option imo. Ryback just needs the rub, he doesn't need to win.
I don't see Taker agreeing to work with Ryback. If it was to Vince he probably jack off at the idea, but The Deadman does have the final say in the matter.

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I know that taker has the final say, but why would he not agree to work with Ryback? It's not like he is going to lose the match.

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