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Old 11-20-2012, 07:51 PM   #7881 (permalink)
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Yep, which is why his segment should do well. I've said it before and I'll say it again, no one person can pull a 3 hour show up in ratings besides a return/surprise appearance that would keep people tuned into the show, but that would just be for 1-2 shows tops. Even when they had Rock, Cena, Taker, HHH, and HBK all there in one show, on the road to Wrestlemania non-the-less every week, they were still in the low 3.0's. Lesnar/HHH? 3.1 was the best they could do when both were on the show (with HBK), and keep in mind that's for the second biggest show of the year (and obviously I'm not counting Raw 1000). So overall ratings can't be attributed to any one person, especially on a 3-hour show. If Rock couldn't do a miracle with the ratings, how does anyone expect Punk to?

As long as Punk's segment does well, it's fine as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure of the last time he had a segment all to himself (though Heyman was there for all of it, and I'm sure people will play that card if the segment does well, but whatever). So this will be a good test. Probably the best test Punk has had since he returned after MITB 2011.
I understand that. In one of your earlier posts you mentioned "fallout from PPV", I was just pointing out that punk retaining the title was the fallout from SS.

Punk's segment was in the overrun, it would most likely end up the highest or second highest rated part of the show.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:10 PM   #7882 (permalink)
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One year later and Punk still hasn't been accepted as a main event star. Take the title off of him already.
Many of us said it even before the one year run. Based on similar past situations and his overall presentation. I said it back then and you can say it now, the guy will never be able to connect to a wide audience, let alone attract him.

As for the overrun segment(For people saying "it was only 5 minutes in the show", true, but it was in the best position and they built almost the entire show around it), it's probably going to do a decent gain for the fact that they promoted it in full force, not only with their promotion but also the backstage segments throughout the entire show. My prediction that the Vickie/AJ segment did the biggest number, with Ryback's promo and match second. Still, it doesn't really matter who does the biggest in this case because the overall is so low. Terrible rating and viewership, deservedly.

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Old 11-20-2012, 08:15 PM   #7883 (permalink)
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Go back to 2 hours, have less recaps, great wrestling matches which we have been getting on the 3 hour show, some backstage segments like the Ziggler/Cena beat down and of that ilk and some more stories based on the titles and ratings will slowly go up again.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:26 PM   #7884 (permalink)
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It's funny how the Raw thread is always a constant stream of "this entire show has been awful, who would watch this?" and then this thread immediately defaults to "It's all this one very specific person's fault." I frankly applaud the people with the willpower to leave Raw behind.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:29 PM   #7885 (permalink)
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Many of us said it even before the one year run. Based on similar past situations and his overall presentation. I said it back then and you can say it now, the guy will never be able to connect to a wide audience, let alone attract him.

As for the overrun segment(For people saying "it was only 5 minutes in the show", true, but it was in the best position and they built almost the entire show around it), it's probably going to do a decent gain for the fact that they promoted it in full force, not only with their promotion but also the backstage segments throughout the entire show. My prediction that the Vickie/AJ segment did the biggest number, with Ryback's promo and match second. Still, it doesn't really matter who does the biggest in this case because the overall is so low. Terrible rating and viewership, deservedly.
You know what would be a RTWM that would draw in 4.0s and above?

:Rock vs :steiner2


Think of the promos...
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:32 PM   #7886 (permalink)
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You know what would be a RTWM that would draw in 4.0s and above?

:Rock vs :steiner2


Think of the promos...
The Rock/Steiner interaction was always a legit dream scenario. Hollywood Rock with 2000 Big Poppa Pump could have been incredible.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:41 PM   #7887 (permalink)
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The Rock/Steiner interaction was always a legit dream scenario. Hollywood Rock with 2000 Big Poppa Pump could have been incredible.
It really could have. They'd be competing for the "Who's the biggest dick?" award.

The funny thing is that I was never really impressed with Cena in his feud with Rock. Rock did his part quite well but Cena...I just never felt any intensity from him. You could tell Rock's character hated Cena, but with Cena himself, he took it as a big joke, it seemed. You want to build up some legitimate heat for a feud? Give Steiner and mic and say "go out there and say what you want about Rock." That's all you need. If we got a promo from Scott reminiscent of his big unscheduled shoot on Ric Flair in January 2000, but this time on the Rock, damn that'd be sweet.
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people blame punk... fuckin idiots man its not punks fault. u all should thank punk if not for him many people wouldnt even of came back to wwe. hell he got me interested again. I honestly watch mostly for punk heyman. i cant stand cenas char and his same old shit and the fact wwe still trys to make us like him by showing that make a wish shit last night, ya hes a good guy and all but fuck his char. and ryback is meh for me. Im glad wwe use ryback more now as a main event guy this way cena can be replaced one day.

anyways the problem is the 3 hours they give us these shit matches which are boring as fuck. wwe keeps clamming shit in to try and fill the show. like really do u really want to see the fuckin great kali dancing with hornswoggle? that whole skit made me cringe... I can go on like the boring antonio sezaro vs fricken brodus clay we seen it already... ryback vs tensai we seen already also.... etc and the main event all of that was to build up throughout tghe show heyman going on saying punks celebration. which was a big disapointment cause it was pretty much the same ending as survivor seires lol
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Blame it on Phil.
Just like Rock spiked ratings up to 6 million every week he showed up in this product... right? Please, it's the product, not the wrestler. Get it through your head.
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