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Old 11-20-2012, 05:44 PM   #7861 (permalink)
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One year later and Punk still hasn't been accepted as a main event star. Take the title off of him already.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:45 PM   #7862 (permalink)
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I'm a big punk fan, but the end segment was extremely short and didn't deliver enough, It felt as if punk and heyman were just talking fast to get rid of the 5 minutes, the whole video was great, but everything about the last segment felt average at best, didn't help that the whole show was unbearable and I felt asleep just waiting for the celebration to happen
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:47 PM   #7863 (permalink)
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Another depressing week, both in show quality and ratings.

It's bad that these ratings are for a show that followed Survivor Series, but considering how badly built up Survivor Series was this year (possibly the worst attempt at a PPV build I've ever seen, and I've been watching for over 20 years) I'm not very surprised.


LOL at people blaming Punk's celebration for not drawing when they didn't start it until the last five minutes of the show.....almost the entire last hour was taken up by Sheamus vs Sandow, Team Hell No vs Mysterio/Sin Cara, and various segments and recaps featuring AJ & Cena. Feel free to choose any one of those for being responsible for the ratings disaster.

Another thing is...remember a few weeks back when Raw had it's 2.48 rating? What were the matches on that show? I can remember two of them....Ryback vs Tensai (where he had trouble lifting Tensai up) and Cesaro vs Brodus Clay, where Cesaro (impressively) defeated Brodus with the Neutralizer. What did we get last night? Ryback vs Tensai (where he actually managed to lift Tensai up this time) and Cesaro doing the Neutralizer on Brodus again (didn't look as impressive the second time, fat fuck took most of the impact on his knees). So are they the cause for the overall ratings drop maybe? Ryback bringing in dem ratingz, eh?

Fact is, none of them really are. The overall booking of the show full of 'same old shit, seen them 100 times before' type matches, shit storylines, very unfunny and childish comedy and mostly dull as dishwater cookie cutter characters are doing more damage to the ratings than any single wrestler by themselves ever will.
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It's not that people didn't tune in, they were just left behind.

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Old 11-20-2012, 06:00 PM   #7865 (permalink)
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WWE Raw on Monday, November 19 following Survivor Series scored a measly 2.72 rating, down five percent from a 2.87 rating for the PPV lead-in episode.

It was Raw's lowest rating since a 2.49 rating on October 22 leading into Hell in a Cell.

-- Raw averaged 3.84 million viewers, which was down 8.5 percent from last week's average of 4.19 million viewers.

Hourly Break Down: 3.87 million first hour viewers for the immediate Survivor Series fall-out, which was the fewest 1H viewers since the Oct. 22 Raw. 3.92 million second hour viewers, which was also the fewest 2H viewers since Oct. 22. And, a decline to 3.71 million third hour viewers.

By comparison, the post-HIAC Raw on Oct. 29 averaged 4.31 million viewers in the first hour, then declined to 4.22 million viewers and 3.78 million viewers in the final two hours.

Also of note, Raw's viewership declined from the second to third hour for the 14th consecutive week and 17th week out of 18 weeks during the three-hour era.

-- Competition from a blow-out Monday Night Football game does not appear to be a contributor to Raw's viewership decline with 12.4 million viewers compared to 12.8 million last week and a seasonal average of 13.2 million viewers. Although, the NFL game featured Chicago, which is a strong wrestling market.

Overall on cable TV Monday night, Raw ranked #2 behind the NFL game in both viewers and key male demos. In the third hour, "Pawn Stars" on History Channel beat Raw in viewership, but Raw beat Pawn Stars in key male demos.

-- In the week-to-week demos, Raw did not drop off too far in any category other than teen males 12-17, which hit a four-week low. Males 12-34, males 18-49, and males 18-34 were all down one-tenth of a rating.

The bigger issue is a year-to-year drop-off. This week's Raw was down four-tenths to five-tenths of a rating in key male demos compared to mid-November Raw episodes.
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Raw's social media score also showed weak interest in Monday's Raw following Survivor Series, so the events at Survivor Series either did not catch viewer interest or the big hooks during Raw (C.M. Punk's title celebration and the A.J./Cena-Vickie/Ziggler business) did not attract an audience. There could also be the Jerry Lawler factor, where enough people were turned off by WWE's fake heart attack angle last week on Raw that it carried over to this week. The pattern:

11/12 second hour - 4.39 million viewers during Lawler return hour
11/12 third hour - 4.02 million viewers
11/19 first hour - 3.87 million viewers
11/19 second hour - 3.92 million viewers (very slight bump to the former first hour)
11/19 third hour - 3.71 million viewers

Bottom line, WWE is turning away viewers one way or another - Lawler angle, Raw being three hours, the A.J./Cena storyline, or other reasons. It's leading to audience erosion that is affecting USA Network's stranglehold on the quarterly cable TV ratings race. And, it's not like WWE can serve up a "three-hour Raw special" now that every Raw is three hours. Perhaps going to monthly themed shows will be the artificial, inorganic solution that WWE and USA come up with, but Raw has bigger problems beyond slapping a theme on an in-between-PPVs episode.
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The problem wasn't any of the stars... it was the pacing. And it has been the pacing mixed with just.. inconsistent bullshit... and you have a product, not wrestlers, a product that is dull and not worth the time. I mean, last night was the perfect example. You had the chance to have the three new invaders make noise all night... they show up in a repeat segment of the prior night. You could have set up a new feud for CM Punk, instead, no one has a clue if Ryback is going after Punk again or if he is now pulled into a feud with the other three men. You had a flop in terms of booking 101 with Barret going over the IC champ and not becoming champ but earning his shot. You had the drawn out BS with the soap opera angle... that surprisingly gave us the only real flash of something awesome in Ziggler last night.

Why would that kind of a show draw? You could have Hogan, Austin, and Rock all in their primes in that show and it still wouldn't draw... that is how pathetic the WWE is right now.


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Old 11-20-2012, 06:04 PM   #7868 (permalink)
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I don't know how could anybody watch the show with Jerry Lawler being back. When he returned last week, I decided to stop watching Raw.
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So Punk's face is on TV for 5-10 minutes in total out of 190 minutes, and he's (still) getting blamed?

I know haters are going to hate, but I didn't know they'd be this desperate to try and get ammo on Punk. If the celebration doesn't do well, then fair enough. That segment was all promoted Punk and that's that. If it does well it's because of him and can be used as evidence that there is some drawing value to Punk's name. If it doesn't do well, it just proves what has been said for the last 16 months over and over and over again, that Punk isn't a TV draw and that only Cena can be considered a TV draw out of full-time guys.
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