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post #771 of 9175 (permalink) Old 01-26-2012, 01:31 PM
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A couple of months? Try since August. Why it's such a big deal is beyond me because it shouldn't dictate what you think of someone, but hell, who am I to think logically?
Again, I don't know why people keep saying this. I have yet to see anyone say they like or dislike someone because they can or can't draw.

I also don't get why over the last 5 months people have been coming into the ratings thread and complaining about people discussing ratings, I mean it's the exact same people every week making the same comment


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What happend to all the īnot one man is drawing itīs the whole show what drawsī
Let me guess every time the ratings are low itīs not because of Punk but when itīs high itīs all because of Punk .

Damn I truly believe that because of these kind of reactions CM Punk getīs hated so much by everyone who doesnīt like him
This just proves that both punk supporters and punk haters are a bit biased in their interpretations of the ratings. When Punk wasn't drawing, people were dismissing the ratings and blaming other factors such as the lack of credible opponents at the same time (which nullifies their argument for dismissing the ratings). Now that Punk is in the drawing segments, all of the sudden they bring the ratings up.
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Again, I don't know why people keep saying this. I have yet to see anyone say they like or dislike someone because they can or can't draw.

I also don't get why over the last 5 months people have been coming into the ratings thread and complaining about people discussing ratings, I mean it's the exact same people every week making the same comment
I'm a mod so I technically have to come in here and then I'll post because I see quite a bit of ignorance.



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I didn't mean you specifically but people in general who make these comments every week


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So I'm to understand that because a few people had excessively high hopes for CM Punk, there are posters on this forum that have made it their mission over the past couple of months to harp on about how CM Punk doesn't "bring the ratings", in an effort to "get even"?

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No that's what you believe. Did you seriously missed those 'CM Punk is the next G.O.A.T', "CM Punk is bigger than The Rock', "Cm Punk is the next Austin' treats? This has noting to do with 'a few people who had excessively high hopes for CM Punk' the whole damn forum was full of this crap.

I also don't know why you are over-exaggerating the 'get even' part. Every time the ratings come out people are discussing who is a draw and who isn't. CM Punk is the WWE champion so he get's the most attention in this ratings tread. Same happened with John Cena, Randy Orton, Alberto Del Rio etc......

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This just proves that both punk supporters and punk haters are a bit biased in their interpretations of the ratings. When Punk wasn't drawing, people were dismissing the ratings and blaming other factors such as the lack of credible opponents at the same time (which nullifies their argument for dismissing the ratings). Now that Punk is in the drawing segments, all of the sudden they bring the ratings up.
I agree it's a little bit biased of both sides.

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Discussing ratings isn't really the problem... it's when posts are made like:

"Punk sucks he can't draw."

or

"Ryder's a fucking failure."

or even the other way around when that's all that's in the post. This thread isn't about Punk, Cena, Kane, Rock, HHH, or any of those guys, it's about RAW and the ratings. That should be the primary discussion, not whether one person is a draw or not.

I'm fine with it being a side discussion, mentioned in posts that have to do with the overall ratings, etc., but when the majority of posts in this thread probably have to do with whether one guy is a draw or not, especially since ratings is only one part of being a draw, it gets kinda annoying to come here and try and discuss RAW' ratings when you get side-tracked by the Punk stuff.

I wish we'd see more posts in this thread like Starbuck's after the quarterly comes out. He does discuss based on the ratings a little bit if certain guys draw or not, but it's primarily about how well the whole show did.

Granted I do know there are SOME people who do come in here occasionally and try to dispel the ratings importance, while others try to over-blow it based on a number of factors.

Edit: And there's not a little bias on both sides, there's a BIG bias on both sides for and against Punk. That's why these threads get as "heated" as they do.

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You know, now that the Football season is over and they have no actual competition on Monday nights... I was sure the ratings would be around 3.3 - 3.6. But the fact that they seem to be increasing should be good enough
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I'm not really surprised if HHH did that. Its good leverage. I honestly thought that HHH vs Nash would've moved their match onto the Royal Rumble PPV to save their face and artificially increase the draw value of their match.
Nash vs HHH was not even the biggest draw for TLC. The triple threat match was. Even if the match was moved to Rumble, who is going to credit HHH vs nash for the RR buyrate? Everyone knows rumble match is the draw.


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It was always like this so it's nothing new, but the huge drop in the second quarter for the last year is funny because years ago it was a huge segment in terms of gain.

And lol@PWTorch, same thing I said:
Wade keller proves to be just the moron i thought he was. I honestly dont understand why these people think HHH is suppose to be this ego-maniac spotlight hog when the guy is barely on Raw show. If he was such a spotlight hog why not be on raw every week, why not be the WWE champion, hell why not end the streak? He is basically the next heir to the throne, why would he even care about what the IWC thinks of him?

Torch is a fucking joke.



And how the hell did Cena lost viewers but Kane/Ryder gained over half a million viewers?


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There is a huge difference between a guy like Heyman and and someone like Russo.
That's a matter of opinion, but it doesn't surprise me to see the double standard.
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Good numbers this week. Jericho losing viewers is a concern but I think everyone knows it was just more of him doing nothing so no need to watch.

Obviously this isn't his new character and at the Rumble he'll probally make his point and he can move on from the ratings killer.

If you're the WWE you have to like that Punk Lauranitis and Kane Ryder hit acceptable levels. Those are your 2 premiere storylines right now.
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