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Old 11-15-2012, 05:51 PM   #7771 (permalink)
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #7772 (permalink)
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Firstly I think it shows how far the product has fallen that some think a 2.8 rating is good...that is dire. The same week last year did a 3.37.

Secondly that is the last one before one of the wwe ppv flagships in the survivor series...I imagine that is the worst pre Survivor Series Raw in history.

Thirdly the last segment loses with Cena and Punk show that the third hour needs to go. These two are technically the two top guys on the show and if that results in loses then something is seriously wrong there. People are bored and tired having to sit through three hours of the show. Especially when content is spread so thin.

The real shame is as I mention the build up to Survivor Series. It has been a total clusterfuck and buy rates will be waaaay down.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:08 PM   #7773 (permalink)
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Firstly I think it shows how far the product has fallen that some think a 2.8 rating is good...that is dire. The same week last year did a 3.37.
In all fairness, last year's build had Rock and was only two hours, so it isn't a really fair comparison. However, what you could point out is Raw's ratings for the last two months have been lower than where they were last year during the same two months (almost every week has been down the whole year if I'm not mistaken).

However 2.8-2.9 is becoming the average, which is terrible, but at this point if the show gets even that, it's "okay" for right now's standards, though obviously bad in the grand scheme of things. However if they can remain in business even with those ratings, it doesn't really matter.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:12 AM   #7774 (permalink)
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:19 AM   #7775 (permalink)
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FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD GOOO BACK TOO 2 HOURS. People didn't even tune in for the top two guys in WWE, Punk and Cena, that is how tiring 3 hours is. Plus with 3 hours, they already run all the possible match combinations to the ground, they will be left with nothing original to do.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:30 AM   #7776 (permalink)
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Here's the decision they are faced with...apparently lol:

1) Have a 3 hour show, make an absolute mint off the third hour but at the expense of ratings and the overall quality of the shows

2) Go back to 2 hours, lose out on a lot of money, improve the quality of the show and most likely improve ratings as well

As a businessman, what would you do if you were Vince McMahon? I can see why they've done it, even if they were forced into it by USA. Maybe they can do it for now while the show and wrestling in general is a bit of a slump. They can set aside all that extra money and then when they're ready to perhaps start a new boom or go in a new direction, they'll have a shit ton of money just sitting to spend on advertising, promotion, marketing, whatever the hell else. Who knows, it's just an idea. Or maybe we'll be stuck with 3 hours forever. Money > all at the end of the day. It's just unfortunate that in order for them to make that money they have turned their flagship show into a complete chore to watch.
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Here's the decision they are faced with...apparently lol:

1) Have a 3 hour show, make an absolute mint off the third hour but at the expense of ratings and the overall quality of the shows

2) Go back to 2 hours, lose out on a lot of money, improve the quality of the show and most likely improve ratings as well

As a businessman, what would you do if you were Vince McMahon? I can see why they've done it, even if they were forced into it by USA. Maybe they can do it for now while the show and wrestling in general is a bit of a slump. They can set aside all that extra money and then when they're ready to perhaps start a new boom or go in a new direction, they'll have a shit ton of money just sitting to spend on advertising, promotion, marketing, whatever the hell else. Who knows, it's just an idea. Or maybe we'll be stuck with 3 hours forever. Money > all at the end of the day. It's just unfortunate that in order for them to make that money they have turned their flagship show into a complete chore to watch.
Once ratings start decreasing even further the network itself will tell them to go back to two hours, or else they will risk the viewers for the show, which is a bad thing for both WWE and the USA Network.
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I expected Jerry's promoted return to do big and it did for the first part which was real and emotional, what it should have been. Good to see that the second part with the disturbing act of the Punk/Heyman segment lost all the viewers and more. That's exactly what I predicted in the RAW thread. Cena/Punk doing horrible wasn't surprising, it was never that big to begin with and the fact that they did it so many times lowered it even more. The most impressive thing in this breakdown is the big 10pm gain, I'm pretty sure that it's the biggest 10pm gain since the move to 3 hours. Ryback is currently 3 out of 3 in a main time slot, Ziggler/Otunga, tag with Cena and now a huge gain for a match with a ref. Ryback is the hottest TV attraction in the industry today based on his results every time they're promoting him in a key position. And if he made a difference on PPV, according to a report a few weeks ago in his first PPV main event ever(In his current persona), he can be considered along with Cena in every aspect besides his merchandise sales and family fanbase on the road.
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Why do people complain about RAW being 3 hours? Personally, I don't watch the entire 3 hours. I either just tune in and out, or I just skip the entire first hour completely, and just catch anything good that happened on you tube. If you don't like it, then just don't watch an hour of it.
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In all fairness, last year's build had Rock and was only two hours, so it isn't a really fair comparison. However, what you could point out is Raw's ratings for the last two months have been lower than where they were last year during the same two months (almost every week has been down the whole year if I'm not mistaken).

However 2.8-2.9 is becoming the average, which is terrible, but at this point if the show gets even that, it's "okay" for right now's standards, though obviously bad in the grand scheme of things. However if they can remain in business even with those ratings, it doesn't really matter.
Wrong, "Raw Gets Rocked" at 14/11/2011 was a three hour special and I remember staying up to watch it and almost falling asleep at school due to being extremely tired. What a waste of time that was. The Rock did his thing but I just expected a lot more with all the excitement and shit.
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