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Old 10-31-2012, 08:48 PM   #7521 (permalink)
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Yes because in the opening promo Punk was talking to himself and then at the end of the show it was just Punk again talking to himself. At Survivor Series it's going to be Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk vs. Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk. The special ref is Phil Brooks.
Funny because that what actually happened at first, talking about his title, then Foley comes in the last 3 min. Nobody is given the full credit to Punk but in the segment they were talking about him anyway, people are intrested in him. Cena did a weak gain in the 9 pm, it usually gets higher than that, also later on his segment he lost viewers (not necessarily because of him but he was part of it). Also Ryback lost viewers, no excuses here. Why are you angry anyway, repeating his name like the ones in his team or in the opposite team gained more than him in the last 2 months. Credit to both but every high gain, Punk was part of it.

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Old 10-31-2012, 09:54 PM   #7522 (permalink)
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Punk has been on fire recently with these numbers. He's practically the only guy actually doing consistently well these days.

Also, Ryback is a flop. Week after week, he loses viewers.
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I really can't see how people can continue to say Punk is the reason the ratings are shit, when really, he's been consistently drawing viewers in whenever he's onscreen for the last few months. He's been on fire and has proven to be able to draw viewers. Yet, people will continue to blame the shit ratings on Punk.

Ryback continues to not be a ratings draw and I can't say I'm surprised.
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Yes because in the opening promo Punk was talking to himself and then at the end of the show it was just Punk again talking to himself. At Survivor Series it's going to be Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk vs. Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk. The special ref is Phil Brooks.
lmao, well said. It's funny how Punk marks are ready to celebrate if his segment does well then when it's not the case, they whine and say "Y U KARE ABT RATINGZ!!!!"

I bet a segment involving Punk choosing his team against Santino's team would have gained as much because Punk is such a monster draw that he does it all by himself.
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^It works both ways. Haters won't acknowledge when Punk does well and will be ready to celebrate and call him a failure if his segment don't do well. Really, it's a moot point at this time. Marks will mark. Haters will hate. It's that simple and straight-forward. I don't see the point in it being brought up every week (following this post, I'm not even going to acknowledge them).

Now onto the marking...

The hook from the PPV, combined with Punk and Foley keeping the interest did a very nice start. Had the strongest opening rating since the 9/17 show, and set the tone for the rest of the show to do the best rating in a while. What makes it even better is the final segment did better than this starting segment, showing people were interested in seeing the teams and there's interest in the Team Punk/Team Foley SVS teams. Cena/Guerrero actually did the lowest gain in the 9PM slot since 9/3, but had the highest rating by a considerable margin for at least the month of October (don't have the ratings for 10PM slots from before then).

Show/Sheamus's gain was the largest 10PM gain since 7/23 (1000th Raw which was Lesnar/HHH/Heyman/Steph) and before that since 6/25 with Jericho return and Cena/Jericho promo. Show/Sheamus is catching on, and after their great MOTN at HIAC, it should be. The rating itself wasn't anything special. And the overrun was actually the lowest gain of the last 4 weeks, but a higher rating than any overrun in the last two months minus Punk vs. Vince.

Punk's drawing ability is clearly there to some degree, and I think after being in the overrun week after week, having constantly big gains, it's clear he's an draw of sorts. Of course the ratings for those overrun quarters are generally poor, but at the same time they're generally well above the average rating for the show, which is a positive. Punk is easily the biggest (full-time) draw they have minus Cena, but at the end of the day he, and even Cena still need a hot angle to get people from the outside interested. Otherwise WWE have to resort to getting guys like Rock, Taker, HHH, Foley, Vince, Lawler, and any other legend that returns to get that normal return bonus they get for a week for that legend before things start going back down to normal. Clearly the ref angle is attracting some attention, and I suppose the Cena/AJ/Vickie stuff is doing the same as well. We'll have to see as the weeks progress, including with where the Team Punk/Team Foley stuff goes.
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Ryback vs. JTG lost 432,000 viewers so Ryback is still not a ratings draw. Randy Orton vs. Wade Barrett gained 123,000 viewers.
Wait what? How is this? Almost 7 minutes of Orton vs barrett match was part of the same quarter IIRC. Ryback/JTG was extremely short match with a min promo from Ryback.

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lol still not the main event

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Yes because in the opening promo Punk was talking to himself and then at the end of the show it was just Punk again talking to himself. At Survivor Series it's going to be Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk vs. Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk. The special ref is Phil Brooks.
You usually post good stuff but I feel this is shit. Punk has become a draw, period. He has continued to gain more than expected for awhile now and every time you make the same excuse more or less of "Punk's not the only one in the promo/match/whatever." Last time I checked Cena doesn't wrestle himself or cut all his promos talking to himself either but we give him all the credit as a draw.

Fact is, Punk has become a draw. Haters will just have to deal with it. Or continue to make excuses.

But on the same note too, Punk Marks that are calling for The Ryback's head because he isn't drawing big numbers sound like hypocrites because they were screaming to give Punk time to start moving numbers when he was getting shit gains/losses. Although, pretty sure some of the Punk Marks are just mocking people like Rock316ae
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Mick Foley, well done. Drew all the big numbers of then night.

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Yes because in the opening promo Punk was talking to himself and then at the end of the show it was just Punk again talking to himself. At Survivor Series it's going to be Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk vs. Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk, Punk. The special ref is Phil Brooks.
Could be said about any segment ever that had more then one wrestler in it and that did well to try and dismiss one drawing power. Thats like the first bad post i've read from you. I am disappoint.
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Impressed it did better this week, thought it would do worse because of the hurricane.
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