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**The Official Raw Ratings Thread** (Discuss Ratings In Here)

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
For a list of the weekly rating dating back to January, please click here:

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2012-tv-ratings/

RATINGS BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WEEKS RAW 4/9

Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.

In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.

Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.

Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.

The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.

Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.

The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.

The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.

And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
 
#3,220 ·
Laranitis gaining these big numbers tells you alot about how bad the roster is today.
 
#3,222 ·
Holy fucking hell Big Johnny lol. Jesus Christ!! DEM NUMBERZ. I don't know whether to shake my head or congratulate them tbh. I mean give them their props here, they actually seemed to have created a character that people want to see. This isn't Cena or HHH who when given a big angle are expected to pull numbers like this and do. This is John Fucking Laurinaitis and now he seems to be able to pull numbers like this on his lonesome. That deserves credit at least.

The problem though and it is a glaring problem, yet again they've focused on a non-wrestler. Remember Michael Cole last year? Didn't his segments draw over a million viewers at one time too? You want to know why WWE have no heels? It's because they invest all their time and effort into creating guys like Big Johnny and Cole instead, guys who the fans hate but guys who aren't actually wrestlers and therefore can't be cashed in on in the long run. It's daft and makes no sense but there you have it, it's WWE in a nutshell.

I still don't think this is a good sign for OTL on Sunday though. Also, instead of the holding pattern WWE had for a while there where they were having steady gains across the board. Now they have reverted back to the old way of big opener, loss, loss, loss, big 10pm, loss, loss, loss, big overrun. They've made zero progress and while Johnny is pulling numbers like this now, you have to wonder how long it will last.

HHH/Heyman did alright. Punk/Bryan did shit. I'm willing to bet a lot of people don't even know they're having a match on Sunday tbh. Orton/Jericho gaining was nice for them. And Big Johnny trumps them all. Madness.
 
#3,225 · (Edited)
CM Punk and Santino Marella vs. Cody Rhodes and Daniel Bryan plus the Beth Phoenix vs. Alicia Fox match lost 601,000 viewers.
This doesnt make sense. The Divas match was in Q3 not 2. Q2 barely had any actual match in it. Announcer talk, entrances and 2 commercial breaks filled that one up.

John Cena's Make-A-Wish segment lost 370,000 viewers and did the lowest rated quarter in months with a 2.64 rating.
This was most of the Tag Team match, Divas match and ended with the Make-A-Wish segment ( wasent long at all ).


Brodus Clay, R-Truth and Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger lost 996,000 viewers.
Im guessing this means both Q6 and Q7. Since the match happened inbetween. That half hour was 3 commerical breaks, replays, backstage stuff and the actual match. Once again unfair to put all blame on those guys when the match was only like 5 minutes in a 30 minute period.

I dont understand how they break this down. Sometimes a match is like 1 minute long and its still "Him Vs. Him lost 500,000 viewers". Really unfair.

But its always telling where the commerical breaks make the Quarters take a hit. Its no wonder that the commercial free Raw did such a huge number years ago.
 
#3,226 ·
Have to agree with JasonLives. Much of the time, these breakdowns are weighed excessively, almost like WWE is booking the show so the websites can run the terrible losses for certain matches and segments. Almost every segment that saw traumatic losses was commercial- and recap-heavy as hell this week, with minimal time dedicated to wrestling.

Everything they've done in the last couple of weeks on Raw minus the Paul E. return, Triple H being brought back this week and the Laurinaitis/Big Show angle (no matter what you think of it, at least it required some thought, somewhere, from someone) demonstrates that they don't give a shit. And they're not going to until at least the first week of June at the earliest, maybe the last week of June at the latest. Depending on Vince's whims, heh.
 
#3,233 ·
They treat Punk like a midcarder, they put him in a match where there is two commercial breaks during it with midcarders.
He's the WWE Champion and they don't even give him time to speak about his match with Bryan. Man this guy will not draw if they keep treating him like this.
Cm Punk sells more t-shirts then anybody but still he's stuck with irrelevent wrestlers.
 
#3,244 ·
Big johnny is a great TV personality, well developed & consistently pushed character for the past 10 months. I guess that explains the character's success in the ratings. Shame, they dont even push superstars like that anymore. How many guys they ruined since WM 27 because of sheer incompetence and lack of long term planning?

Why has The Miz turned into a jobber even after working with Rock & cena?
Why did Edge beat Del Rio at Wrestlemania? why did Cena beat him at NOC for the title?
Why did Heel HHH-Punk Mania program never happen?
WTF happened to Zack Ryder?
Why the hell are Ziggler & Swagger stuck in a limbo, jobbing to Brodus week after week?

Except for sheamus,bryan & punk, they have managed to ruin everyone else step by step. And if Punk loses the title, he will join the rest of the group relegated back to upper mid-card. Daniel Bryan being one of the established Smackdown main eventers can still survive I guess.
 
#3,251 ·
Why is anyone remotely surprised by this? Skinny, charismaless indy midgets are never going to draw under any circumstances. It's the same story every week. There's an unspeakably big difference between smart-marks chanting for Bryan/Punk and booing Cena at live shows and what the 99%ers who watch at home like. Bryan and Punk are only there because Benoit went psycho. As soon as Vince decides the heat is off these hacks will be back in ROH.

I'm glad that Show/JL drew huge because it was a great segment and very well-worked.
 
#3,261 ·
When put in good angles Punk draws well.

His contract signing with vince gained a million.

His contract signing with HHH on Smackdown gained 800'000

His match with Cena 2 weeks after Summerslam gained a million.

Gained 800'000 in a six man tag two weeks before the rumble and gained 750,000 the week after with his match with Johnny Ace.

His sobriety test with Jericho did a 3.6, the same mumber that Rock/Cena and HHH/HBK/Taker were consistently hitting on the RTWM.

So when is good angles he draws well, and in promos he draws very consistently. But when he is in a nothing feud with DB its not suprising that the audience doesnt care.
 
#3,285 ·
The entire poit of a draw, is that tey bring in viewers. In a good storyline, anyone can draw.

But those segments, it was cena/HHH/Vince drawing.

Punk has been in so many woeful segments, and has constantly drawn weak numbers.

As for wwe pushing small guys, yes it's killing the business, although wrestling is scripted, it should have some element of realism. Punk beating mark Henry is stupid. Mind you, I think small people can draw as heels.
 
#3,282 ·
Vince McMahon was NOT the draw of Monday Night Raw. He was a good foil for Austin but the Rock and Foley segments outdrew all of that even though it wasn't designed to. The McMahon stuff kind of led to the downfall of alot of progression. Him screwing over Rock at Mania 2000 got trashed tossed at them but that was as hot as it could be for him. Austin kicking his ass was what made money and if he never screwed over Bret Hart, he would of never mattered on the level he did. That's how all of that shit began. The screwjob carried over into how everyone perceived him.
 
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