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Old 10-28-2012, 05:47 PM   #7471 (permalink)
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1 man and his turn doesn't equal ratings! Do you think people who don't care about wrestling will suddenly care? no. Wrestling is not cool anymore. Do you honestly believe a heel turn will improve creative and the booking?

1 man doesn't equal ratings! Get over it. If Cena is such a draw why do we have such low ratings? do you think because he doesn't have a championship belt, people would start watching again? So get off this is he/isn't he a draw. You draw and fail collectively not as individuals.

Even during the beloved Attitude era you had Austin, Rock, HHH, Undertaker, Kane, Jericho etc. collectively they all could draw if you had a show with the same low-mid cards and same writers as today but Austin was on top of the card do you think it would of drawn? no. The reason it did draw the ratings it did was because of everyone who performed as well as the backstage crew. Which made for an entertaining show.

Individually 1 person can draw but it won't make much difference to the overall ratings. To make a 3.5-4.0 you need more than 1 person. Especially over 3 hours. Cm Punk drew me back to wrestling but how come the ratings haven't went up? To every 1 person who is happy with a decision there's another guy who's pissed about it
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Yeah, but some people are still clueless about this. They think one guy equals ratings. Well, let this thing happen, so we can see this fantasy ratings coming, . Anyone who thinks one guy equals ratings is just clueless, You need at least 5 or 6 guys that can draw to pull that kind of a rating. Like in 2006/7/8 they had Trips, Michaels, Batista, Edge, Cena, Taker, Jericho, Show, adding Punk, (Heel) Orton too. Now we only have Cena, Punk, Show, and sometimes Orton, this especially not enough for a 3 hours show.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:50 PM   #7472 (permalink)
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If Cena is such a draw why do we have such low ratings? do you think because he doesn't have a championship belt, people would start watching again? So get off this is he/isn't he a draw. You draw and fail collectively not as individuals.

Even during the beloved Attitude era you had Austin, Rock, HHH, Undertaker, Kane, Jericho etc. collectively they all could draw if you had a show with the same low-mid cards and same writers as today but Austin was on top of the card do you think it would of drawn? no. The reason it did draw the ratings it did was because of everyone who performed as well as the backstage crew. Which made for an entertaining show.

Individually 1 person can draw but it won't make much difference to the overall ratings. To make a 3.5-4.0 you need more than 1 person. Especially over 3 hours. Cm Punk drew me back to wrestling but how come the ratings haven't went up? To every 1 person who is happy with a decision there's another guy who's pissed about it.
You contradicted yourself in your post, but you make some sense. It's the same deal every time, one or two big names draw people to the event, but the undercard is what keeps people interested and engaged throughout. The undercard warms up the crowd to the bout they came to see, but they aren't the ones drawing people in, per se. That's what the main event is for. That's why they market the main events for. So when people post how a guy with the IC title doesn't draw it doesn't make sense. They aren't supposed to draw, they are the guys who keep people interested in the show.


Read: Names like John Cena, The Rock, and Brock Lesnar are draws. Names like Dolph Ziggler, Zach Ryder, and Kofi Kingston are not. They are not driving forces to bring people in the show.
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Actually Dave Meltzer debunked that claim when the report originally came out...
Okay, didn't see that. My original point stands. The guy brings a lot of cash into the business. You don't change a sure thing.
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It's never going to happen Vince has never had the balls to turn his biggest faces hell outside of Bret & Shawn in 1997. He never did it to Hogan and Austin's heel turn was 100% HIS idea and pretty much ruined the rest of his career. hate to say it but John Cena will NEVER turn heel no matter how bad business gets.
Nah it didn't the Austin of 2001 was far less popular than his character of the late nineties. He was stale and boring and allying with Vince McMahon actually was shocking for it's day. The problem was the booking after that and then a second swerve literally months later when he nonsensically joined WCW.
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Nah it didn't the Austin of 2001 was far less popular than his character of the late nineties. He was stale and boring and allying with Vince McMahon actually was shocking for it's day. The problem was the booking after that and then a second swerve literally months later when he nonsensically joined WCW.
Austin said it himself he wished he never turned heel because by the end of match with The Rock whatever edge he thought he had lost going in he got back. The whole thing was a joke a night after it happened because they needed to jump the shark with putting him together with Triple H because they knew the fans would not boo him otherwise.
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Lots of people out of power in the east coast unexpectedly. Expect lowwww ratings.
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I'm on Long Island, NY... I STILL GOT THAT POWAH!

Though we have lost it once today so far for a second, and the weather is only going to get worse. Hoping it hangs in there until the end of Raw. *fingers crossed*

But yeah, ratings might be lower due to the power going out for Raw. If so, I hope the people who blame Punk weekly will spice up their stories a bit. Like how Punk knew he was gonna fail in ratings again and called on the wrath of Hurricane Sandy to knock out the power of many people so the low ratings could be justified... or some shit like that.
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Power going out will lead to less total viewers of course but it shouldn't impact the overall number (like 3.1 or whatever). Unless a greater percentage of people on the east coast watch then compared to other parts of the US the rating shouldn't be affected.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:27 PM   #7479 (permalink)
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The 29/10 edition of Monday Night Raw drew a 2.9 rating.

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fucking hell! that's good for 2012 standards. Ryback draws!
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