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post #7431 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-26-2012, 05:25 PM
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Does some people still think that if Ryback or Cena are champions, ratings will get better? considering the fact that Punk gained more viewers than Cena, Ryback and Rock. Over a million viewers with Vince, Sheamus, show/Cena w/ Punk ending the show, Foley near a million viewers. So, the numbers say that Punk is the biggest draw this year so far pulling in million viewers. Am I right or wrong?

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Does some people still think that if Ryback or Cena are champions, ratings will get better? considering the fact that Punk gained more viewers than Cena, Ryback and Rock. Over a million viewers with Vince, Sheamus, show/Cena w/ Punk ending the show, Foley near a million viewers. So, the numbers say that Punk is the biggest draw this year so far pulling in million viewers. Am I right or wrong?
Yeah. Foley, Vince and company are nonexistent.

Once Punk can gain a million on his own, then you may be onto something.
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Yeah. Foley, Vince and company are nonexistent.

Once Punk can gain a million on his own, then you may be onto something.
Cena didnt do it, so why should Punk do it. Doesnt make sense to me because Cena had a segment with them and its not higher than Punk.
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Cena didnt do it, so why should Punk do it. Doesnt make sense to me because Cena had a segment with them and its not higher than Punk.
And your point is? It all depends on how many viewers tuned out in the previous segments. For instance, the week before Raw 1000 when Cena ran out with the briefcase, damn near 1 million viewers were gained (it was around 800k I think). Around August, he had a match with Big Show which gained over a million viewers. (Punk's match with Show before Raw 1000 gained 300k only IIRC)

Also, if we venture out of the rating gains, Cena IS above Punk (even Punk marks have the decency to admit it) since he's also a bigger merchandise seller. (Punk had the upper-hand for like a month but it always comes back to Cena) Not to mention, there was one house show where Punk main evented and Cena wrestled right before him and some fans started leaving once Cena's match was over. I think that speaks for itself.

I also forgot to address your laughable statement that Punk has gained more viewers than The Rock (with the help of Vince, Heyman, Foley and other rare appearance makers no less). In Raw 1000, during the wedding segment with Punk/Bryan, as soon as Rock's music hit, a million and a half tuned in if I got the numbers correct. That's ALL to The Rock's credit.
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And your point is? It all depends on how many viewers tuned out in the previous segments. For instance, the week before Raw 1000 when Cena ran out with the briefcase, damn near 1 million viewers were gained (it was around 800k I think). Around August, he had a match with Big Show which gained over a million viewers. (Punk's match with Show before Raw 1000 gained 300k only IIRC).

Also, if we venture out of the rating gains, Cena IS above Punk (even Punk marks have the decency to admit it) since he's also a bigger merchandise seller. (Punk had the upper-hand for like a month but it always comes back to Cena) Not to mention, there was one house show where Punk main evented and Cena wrestled right before him and some fans started leaving once Cena's match was over. I think that speaks for itself.
I also forgot to address your laughable statement that Punk has gained more viewers than The Rock (with the help of Vince, Heyman, Foley and other rare appearance makers no less). In Raw 1000, during the wedding segment with Punk/Bryan, as soon as Rock's music hit, a million and a half tuned in if I got the numbers correct. That's ALL to The Rock's credit.
Well, I guess you didnt read my post well, that match had Punk involvment on both commentary and ring work in the end as he ended the show (So also the credit goes to Punk). Actually Punks match with show gained 719,000. Punk had an upper hand on Cena from July to February on merchandise. Houseshows whatever, Punk was a rebal, thats a long time ago before he even beats Cena, credibility speaks for itself. What about NOC 12 in Bosten when Cena had the upper hand on Punk, there were some tickets left, I guess people are not intrested in Cena winning. Rock was in after the wedding segment it gained 575,000 viewers. Im talking about Punk segments gaining over a million viewers, over Cena that couldnt pull that number without Punks involvments. Even when Cena gained a million its still not higher than Punks million viewers. You dont get the point. Keep notice I was talking about this year, not last year.

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Well, I guess you didnt read my post well, that match had Punk involvment on both commentary and ring work in the end as he ended the show (So also the credit goes to Punk). Actually Punks match with show gained 719,000. Punk had an upper hand on Cena from July to February on merchandise. Houseshows whatever, Punk was a rebal, thats a long time ago before he even beats Cena, credibility speaks for itself. What about NOC 12 in Bosten when Cena had the upper hand on Punk, there were some tickets left, I guess people are not intrested in Cena winning. Rock was in after the wedding segment it gained 575,000 viewers. Im talking about Punk segments gaining over a million viewers, over Cena that couldnt pull that number without Punks involvments. Even when Cena gained a million its still not higher than Punks million viewers. You dont get the point. Keep notice I was talking about this year, not last year.
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Great. You only focused on that, well guess what if Cena wasnt advertised to cash in his MITB briefcase, it will not be that high of a gain, just like if Punk wasnt in commentary or was part in the ring it will not get that kind of a gain. Its a group of work, and it depends on the story and the credibilty of it, you give Bryan that MITB breifcase it will still gain maybe not as much but it will still be as close. Oh, typical fans trying to point fingers to be cool, sorry for dissapointing you im not that guy/girl. I have a busy life not some guy talking about who draws and who cant, and im not the guy who will hate the other guy because of drawing abilities, but all this hate towards Punk are just the ones who have nothing else against him.

Punk gained a million it doesnt matter if its not only him in the segment but he was the champion and the story is/was about him, theyre not talking about balls, asses, and bitches to gain ratings, Punk did it with his intensity and by chosing the right words with whatever hes with in the segment. Punk is a draw, if not he will not gain a million viewers 3 times this year and the funny thing is its higher than Cenas gainings this whole year. Not enough starpowers is the reason for the low ratings.
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I don't know why people are arguing so much over Punk still, each week. It is obvious by now, the man is not a consistent draw in ratings. Give him a decent storyline and a good name to work with, and people will watch. But he himself is not a full capable big draw. Why? In a nutshell: He just has never been portrayed consistently as a big deal while champion as well as lacking the charisma and vibe to capture the casuals attention. He is not an anti-draw either, he doesn't cause viewers to totally and completely tune-out in his segments like some of the anti-drawing mid-card/low-card. It is really that simple.



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