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And why are people saying its not PG that is causing these ratings, this is WRESTLING. Wrestling is fighting its not a friendly kids show. Times have changed this isnt the 80s and early 90s when that worked. The world has changed and the world of TV is changing to more edgy material.
You see stuff like UFC where the buildup and the fighting is real and people love to watch it, its not dedicated to 3rd graders. Most of the audience is dead during the show because half the audience is parents!
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Source: TV By The Numbers, F4WOnline via WrestlingInc.com
Monday's Raw broadcast drew a 2.48 cable rating, the program's worst rating for a non-holiday episode since October 27, 1997 (which drew a 2.3). This is below the rating for the Oct. 1, 2012 show, which garnered a 2.54 in comparison.
As reported earlier, the three-hour program averaged 3.55 million viewers, beating a year-low of 3.50 million viewers on Oct. 1. Raw drew 3.58 million viewers in the first hour, 3.65 million in the second hour, and 3.43 million in third and final hour.
Viewership for the third hour was a year-low, below 3.47 million viewers on Oct. 1. It was the tenth consecutive week where third hour viewership was below viewership in the second hour.
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they fucking deserve that rating, I'm not a stuck-in-the-past hater, but if you're gonna shove Vickie Guerrero down my throat for the 1000000th time after finally getting rid of the train-wreck that is Aj, then sorry, i'm not on your team
and as if there isn't enough imaginary head positions, they add one more , so basically now you have a chairman, a COO, a CEO, the GM, the Interim GM, the Smackdown consultant, the commissioner, and now the head supervisor
oh wait there's more, now we got yet another love soap opera storyline with Cena and Aj, because the Eve/Cena/Ryder was a total blast
hmmm .. a face wrestler meets a helpless diva that's counting on him, oh gee, I wonder how would that turn out, I mean it's not like she'll double cross him and turn heel in the process, because they NEVER did that before right ?
i hope their ratings plummet until they get their heads out of their asses, I still can't get over the fact that the tub of lard Vickie is given yet another big role , until then to hell with them and their boring long-ass 3 hours
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Originally Posted by DenGal
And why are people saying its not PG that is causing these ratings, this is WRESTLING. Wrestling is fighting its not a friendly kids show. Times have changed this isnt the 80s and early 90s when that worked. The world has changed and the world of TV is changing to more edgy material.
You see stuff like UFC where the buildup and the fighting is real and people love to watch it, its not dedicated to 3rd graders. Most of the audience is dead during the show because half the audience is parents!
Exactly! People who try to refrain from blaming PG are just deluding themselves. Look at shows like Jersey Shore, absolutely fucking abysmal in quality, but it draws, because it's not fucking PG.
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thats not really money 'lost'. for the shareholders wanting to sell its hell but as far year to year profits vs losses im not sure how it works out
as for linda's campaign thats another story. thats not wwe losing money as much as it is vince blowing it. like on a yacht. a very crappy, pointless fictional yacht
the only real figures that indicate the company's health are the yearly profits and losses. the very simple, very basic bottom line. unless those start going down the toilet, the wwe is fine. if they go down the toilet, vince still has a long way to go before ending up in 1996 levels
Ratings reflect that though. Most of their money comes from ad revenue. If you ratings continue to fall and less people invest into your company the ad revenue will go down. I think over the past few years the only thing saving them from making less money than the previous years is Wrestlemania and the 10 million dollars they get from SyFy for Smackdown.
Also this year will be interesting because they added two new shows which means they have to spend more money. We will see if the ad revenue is enough to justify these new shows.
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Originally Posted by DenGal
And why are people saying its not PG that is causing these ratings, this is WRESTLING. Wrestling is fighting its not a friendly kids show. Times have changed this isnt the 80s and early 90s when that worked. The world has changed and the world of TV is changing to more edgy material.
You see stuff like UFC where the buildup and the fighting is real and people love to watch it, its not dedicated to 3rd graders. Most of the audience is dead during the show because half the audience is parents!
WWE's got 99 problems, being PG isn't one of them
back in 1997 and 1998, during the peak of the attitude era and their most controversial period with the media, the first hour of RAW was PG and it was called "Monday Night RAW" , the second hour was TV-MA and it was called "The Warzone" , both together were called "RAW is WAR"
the reason the product is this shitty and bland is because they are too pussy to make an enjoyable wrestling show for everyone, the fact is they are too busy with looking good in the media and the mainstream, they forget to improve the quality of the show
Vince is the media's bitch, here's an example, now I understand and applaud supporting the fight against breast cancer, but can I just ask, what difference would it make to change the colors of the sets to pink, would cancer magically disappear by having John Cena wear pink? would people be cured just because the rope is pink ?
my issue isn't with the pink ropes or the sets, it's the fact that Vince would bend over just to look noble in the public's eye, and the sad thing is he's trying too hard , not just the breast cancer, but with the whole package, GLAAD, the B A STAR , etc.. I mean a show about people punching each other for 3 hours is gonna protest against bullying ? come on now
Vince is too scared to pull something edgy because he's afraid it would give him bad buzz, when the fact that that's not true, you could be edgy AND get some positive buzz, look at last year's WWE with CM Punk after the infamous shoot promo, it got a lot of people talking and pay attention to the show and it was cutting edge
you could be edgy without having a guy rape a dead corpse at a funeral home or bleeding for no reason whatsoever other than the fuck of it, as a fan I don't need pointless blood, just give me shit like CM Punk's rise last year for example , that's all i'm asking , is it too much ?
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Originally Posted by Rocky Mark
WWE's got 99 problems, being PG isn't one of them
back in 1997 and 1998, during the peak of the attitude era and their most controversial period with the media, the first hour of RAW was PG and it was called "Monday Night RAW" , the second hour was TV-MA and it was called "The Warzone" , both together were called "RAW is WAR"
the reason the product is this shitty and bland is because they are too pussy to make an enjoyable wrestling show for everyone, the fact is they are too busy with looking good in the media and the mainstream, they forget to improve the quality of the show
Vince is the media's bitch, here's an example, now I understand and applaud supporting the fight against breast cancer, but can I just ask, what difference would it make to change the colors of the sets to pink, would cancer magically disappear by having John Cena wear pink? would people be cured just because the rope is pink ?
my issue isn't with the pink ropes or the sets, it's the fact that Vince would bend over just to look noble in the public's eye, and the sad thing is he's trying too hard , not just the breast cancer, but with the whole package, GLAAD, the B A STAR , etc.. I mean a show about people punching each other for 3 hours is gonna protest against bullying ? come on now
Vince is too scared to pull something edgy because he's afraid it would give him bad buzz, when the fact that that's not true, you could be edgy AND get some positive buzz, look at last year's WWE with CM Punk after the infamous shoot promo, it got a lot of people talking and pay attention to the show and it was cutting edge
you could be edgy without having a guy rape a dead corpse at a funeral home or bleeding for no reason whatsoever other than the fuck of it, as a fan I don't need pointless blood, just give me shit like CM Punk's rise last year for example , that's all i'm asking , is it too much ?
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Originally Posted by Rocky Mark
WWE's got 99 problems, being PG isn't one of them
back in 1997 and 1998, during the peak of the attitude era and their most controversial period with the media, the first hour of RAW was PG and it was called "Monday Night RAW" , the second hour was TV-MA and it was called "The Warzone" , both together were called "RAW is WAR"
the reason the product is this shitty and bland is because they are too pussy to make an enjoyable wrestling show for everyone, the fact is they are too busy with looking good in the media and the mainstream, they forget to improve the quality of the show
Vince is the media's bitch, here's an example, now I understand and applaud supporting the fight against breast cancer, but can I just ask, what difference would it make to change the colors of the sets to pink, would cancer magically disappear by having John Cena wear pink? would people be cured just because the rope is pink ?
my issue isn't with the pink ropes or the sets, it's the fact that Vince would bend over just to look noble in the public's eye, and the sad thing is he's trying too hard , not just the breast cancer, but with the whole package, GLAAD, the B A STAR , etc.. I mean a show about people punching each other for 3 hours is gonna protest against bullying ? come on now
Vince is too scared to pull something edgy because he's afraid it would give him bad buzz, when the fact that that's not true, you could be edgy AND get some positive buzz, look at last year's WWE with CM Punk after the infamous shoot promo, it got a lot of people talking and pay attention to the show and it was cutting edge
you could be edgy without having a guy rape a dead corpse at a funeral home or bleeding for no reason whatsoever other than the fuck of it, as a fan I don't need pointless blood, just give me shit like CM Punk's rise last year for example , that's all i'm asking , is it too much ?
There is different kinds of PG the PG where it is borderline G rated which is WWE and the other where you can bleep out swear words like Smackdown used to. And have edgy TV.
YES WWF Smackdown was PG but look at that PG compared to this. The difference is like the difference between a PG-13 flick and a R rated flick. WWE is in love with this, if they could be G rated they would.
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