[roadkill_]

Originally Posted by Loudness

Î'm sorry, I just couldn't hesitate. Put dat skinny vanilla midget to a real man next to BPP, and he'd look like shit. Where's the passion, where's the intensity, where's the muscles, and most of all, where's the fucking roidrage.

The problem is CM Punk isn't skinny either. On the HIAC poster he has love handles. He's like the guy who fixes your car, not fat, not muscular, but certainly not ripped. The original vanilla midgets, as envision by Nash, Benoit and Saturn etc - those guys were short but at least they hit the gym and were ripped. CM Punk is a fatty vanilla midget and his promos bore to tears.

In the 90's and 00's, there was a guy who did Punk's schtick better. Guy by the name of Lance Storm. He had the bitching/whining thing down without being boring, funny even. CM Punk bitches and whines like an old aunt. An old aunt with love handles who is 5'9.5 while claiming to be 6'1.

[D.M.N.]

- The September 17th WWE RAW had 302,000 homes watching via tape delay or DVR while the September 24th RAW had 341,000 homes watching on a delay.

Both poor numbers really considering the poor live viewership.

Quarter Hours - October 15th, 2012
Q1 - 4.04 million
Q2 - 4.11 million
Q3 - 4.27 million
Q4 - 3.85 million
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Q5 - 4.36 million
Q6/Q7 - 4.00 million
Q8 - 3.90 million
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Q9 - 4.18 million
Q10 - 4.12 million
Q11 - 3.68 million
Q12 - 3.68 million
Overrun - 4.44 million

The pattern seems to be now that viewers can watch two and a half hours of Raw but no more. Watching Raw on Monday I could see that, plus there was little purpose to Kingston vs Miz again and the tag team match was irrelevant and way too long for what it was meant to do.

I can't see WWE admitting defeat in the three hour experiment, but I do wonder whether they would consider doing:

20:00 to 20:30 - WWE Raw (Pre Show)
20:30 to 21:30 - WWE Raw (Hour 1)
21:30 to 22:30 - WWE Raw (Hour 2)
22:30 to 23:05 - WWE Raw (Hour 3)

Or is that unlikely because the start of the hour would have to be 'on the hour'? The pre show would include a match before the show starts properly at half past the hour, so say going on this past week, the pre-show would have Miz TV and Rhodes Scholars vs Primo & Epico for example as well as a lot of backstage stuff hyping the show.

[Rock316AE]

I think that they found their new big chant, instead of this:

5:58


Ryyyyyyyyyyytings Ryyyyyyyyyyyyytings Ryyyyyyyyyyyyyytings

BTW, the reaction when Bret said there that he is "The Best There Is..." was awesome. Mega hot WCW crowd with the old school, passionate wrestling fanbase. This Bret promo along with the Goldberg angle is one of the best segments of all time.

Random fact, WCW usually lost a lot of money every time they took an overrun. Unlike USA from about 1998 when Vince started to copy Bischoff, most of the time TNT didn't know that Nitro is going to "overtime" as Tony Schiavone said after 11pm.

[TromaDogg]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I can't see WWE admitting defeat in the three hour experiment, but I do wonder whether they would consider doing:

20:00 to 20:30 - WWE Raw (Pre Show)
20:30 to 21:30 - WWE Raw (Hour 1)
21:30 to 22:30 - WWE Raw (Hour 2)
22:30 to 23:05 - WWE Raw (Hour 3)

Or is that unlikely because the start of the hour would have to be 'on the hour'? The pre show would include a match before the show starts properly at half past the hour, so say going on this past week, the pre-show would have Miz TV and Rhodes Scholars vs Primo & Epico for example as well as a lot of backstage stuff hyping the show.

Interesting post...but Hour 3 is only 35 minutes?

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by ToxieDogg

Interesting post...but Hour 3 is only 35 minutes?

Yes, because the format would be 30 minutes pre-show, 2 hours 35 minutes Raw.

[Loudness]

Originally Posted by roadkill_

The problem is CM Punk isn't skinny either. On the HIAC poster he has love handles. He's like the guy who fixes your car, not fat, not muscular, but certainly not ripped. The original vanilla midgets, as envision by Nash, Benoit and Saturn etc - those guys were short but at least they hit the gym and were ripped. CM Punk is a fatty vanilla midget and his promos bore to tears.

In the 90's and 00's, there was a guy who did Punk's schtick better. Guy by the name of Lance Storm. He had the bitching/whining thing down without being boring, funny even. CM Punk bitches and whines like an old aunt. An old aunt with love handles who is 5'9.5 while claiming to be 6'1.

I agree with you fully, however I guess you didn't get the "Steiner lines". We weren't talking about Punk, but about Ryback. Compared to Big Poppa Pump, Ryback is a skinnyfat nerd so we used a more muscular guy as an example to show that he's a skinnyfat too, and not just Punk, for the lulz obviously lol. Would rather have a roided up guy with the comican talent of a god, than any other guy, regardless if "skinny" or built So Steiner > Ryback and Goldberg. Don't look too much into it, you're quoting a CM Punk fan here, not a hater. I don't really get the legitimate hate for his look tbh.

[chbulls1_23]

They should just make the first hour of Raw like a preshow with guys like Brodus Clay and other mid to lower card guys. Then have all the major angles in the last 2 hours. That way when people wanna watch they won't miss anything and won't have to sit through all 3 hours.

[Jotunheim]

Originally Posted by roadkill_

The problem is CM Punk isn't skinny either. On the HIAC poster he has love handles. He's like the guy who fixes your car, not fat, not muscular, but certainly not ripped. The original vanilla midgets, as envision by Nash, Benoit and Saturn etc - those guys were short but at least they hit the gym and were ripped. CM Punk is a fatty vanilla midget and his promos bore to tears.

In the 90's and 00's, there was a guy who did Punk's schtick better. Guy by the name of Lance Storm. He had the bitching/whining thing down without being boring, funny even. CM Punk bitches and whines like an old aunt. An old aunt with love handles who is 5'9.5 while claiming to be 6'1.

the whole thing went waaaaaay out of your head

[Loudness]

Originally Posted by Jotunheim

the whole thing went waaaaaay out of your head

You know the say all men are created aequil but you look at me and you look at CM Punk and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally when you gon on one with another wrestler you got a 50/50 chance of winning...but I 'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal, sou you got a 25% at best BEST at beating me, and things start drasically going to get down.
See at the threeway at HIAC, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning but John Cena KNOWS he cant beat me so hes not even gonna try I got a 66 and two thirds chances of winning. So, CM Punk, you take your 33 and a third chance, minus your 25 chance and you got an eight and a third of winning. BUT THEN YOU TAKE MY 75% chance, and you take my 66 and 2/3rds chance of winning........I GOAT A 141 and 2/3rds chance of winning... See Punk, the numbers don't like and they spell disaster for you.

But let me ask the ladies. Would you rather be with Punk, or would you rather be with me?

"Well Punk is kinda nice you know?"

You're one of those girls that like romance. I'm talking to all my freaks out there. Would you rather come home to me, and get satisfied every night, or go home to that skinny fatass CM Punk?"

[KO Bossy]

Originally Posted by Loudness

You know the say all men are created aequil but you look at me and you look at CM Punk and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally when you gon on one with another wrestler you got a 50/50 chance of winning...but I 'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal, sou you got a 25% at best BEST at beating me, and things start drasically going to get down.
See at the threeway at HIAC, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning but John Cena KNOWS he cant beat me so hes not even gonna try I got a 66 and two thirds chances of winning. So, CM Punk, you take your 33 and a third chance, minus your 25 chance and you got an eight and a third of winning. BUT THEN YOU TAKE MY 75% chance, and you take my 66 and 2/3rds chance of winning........I GOAT A 141 and 2/3rds chance of winning... See Punk, the numbers don't like and they spell disaster for you.

But let me ask the ladies. Would you rather be with Punk, or would you rather be with me?

"Well Punk is kinda nice you know?"

You're one of those girls that like romance. I'm talking to all my freaks out there. Would you rather come home to me, and get satisfied every night, or go home to that skinny fatass CM Punk?"

You know what the ladies say-there's nothing finer than Scott Steiner.