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post #7011 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-17-2012, 04:16 AM
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You can't blame one wrestler for an overall rating. You look at their segment number and if it went up or down, simple.

Simple fact is. The overall product fucking sucks and no one wants to watch it. That's why the overall rating is in the 2s.

Just look at the product. I can skip through a 3 hour RAW in half an hour. When the product get's better, then the rating will.

Just look at when Brock Lesnar came back. The big bawl he had with Cena in the ring. It was great and he busted him up and there was agents and other wrestlers out to spilt them up. Just badass and something different.

Then 5 minutes later they have the 3 cunts acting like cunts.

When Steve Austin was on top, he wasn't the only one that was cutting from the pack and doing edgy stuff.

The whole product changed. FUCK does this product ever suck.
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CM punk is now the worst drawing long champion since diesel.

Wow.

But overall the product is a joke.Awful/no story lines. Flat characters,no atmosphere.

Just terrible.Everything about it is. Rock cant save it.Its just too much. The rock v cena feud was a shining light in a rather shitty dark product.

Brock cena was going great but it stopped to quickly.
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Punk isnt the main problem, the whole product stinks.
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They need a spark of something, anything, to get people talking and bring some urgency back to the product. Some big must see angle. When you think about it, there isn't actually any solid reason to watch Raw anymore. There isn't. It's completely missable and that's why so many people have tuned out over the past few months. Right now the only folks watching are the diehard, core audience that aren't going anywhere but even that has dropped from 4 million to 3 million since the 3 hour era began. 3 hours is simply too long to sustain that many viewers and it shows. Punk isn't helping matters by any stretch of the imagination but it sure as hell isn't his fault either. The only times they've managed to pull in new viewers has been for HHH's retirement speech and Vince/Punk last week, both of which were over the 5 million mark iirc. The audience is there if they have something interesting to watch. It's just a matter of providing a quality, entertaining and must see program from John Cena right the way down to Justin Gabriel.
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So in other words Starbuck, they need a huge storyline that was rumored to begin in the summer. Could have redone the Summer of Punk/Conspiracy thing from last year and follow through on it. Or at least start a storyline based on the WWE 13 game like they did in 2005 with Raw vs SD which should have lasted until Mania 22 but that's for a different thread...

And as already mentioned, as much as 2007 sucked, there was at least something going on to keep viewership afloat even if the angle ended up wasted(who blew up the limo?Vince's bastard son).

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I think its worrying times, I can see this time next year them struggling to hit 2.0.

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So in other words Starbuck, they need a huge storyline that was rumored to begin in the summer. Could have redone the Summer of Punk/Conspiracy thing from last year and follow through on it. Or at least start a storyline based on the WWE 13 game like they did in 2005 with Raw vs SD which should have lasted until Mania 22 but that's for a different thread...

And as already mentioned, as much as 2007 sucked, there was at least something going on to keep viewership afloat even if the angle ended up wasted(who blew up the limo?Vince's bastard son).
To be fair about 2007, it was a cursed year. Every month, WWE kept losing some of their key players due to injuries (Undertaker, HBK, HHH, Edge, Cena, Mr. Kennedy and so on) and the Benoit tragedy (which resulted in a bunch of suspensions) made sure that year will never be looked at in a positive light ever again. With 2012, it's just the writing that has been terrible along with lack of star power.
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They need a spark of something, anything, to get people talking and bring some urgency back to the product. Some big must see angle. When you think about it, there isn't actually any solid reason to watch Raw anymore. There isn't. It's completely missable and that's why so many people have tuned out over the past few months. Right now the only folks watching are the diehard, core audience that aren't going anywhere but even that has dropped from 4 million to 3 million since the 3 hour era began. 3 hours is simply too long to sustain that many viewers and it shows. Punk isn't helping matters by any stretch of the imagination but it sure as hell isn't his fault either. The only times they've managed to pull in new viewers has been for HHH's retirement speech and Vince/Punk last week, both of which were over the 5 million mark iirc. The audience is there if they have something interesting to watch. It's just a matter of providing a quality, entertaining and must see program from John Cena right the way down to Justin Gabriel.
I feel ya. I think they need "must see entertainment". somthing that appeals to all ages. Miz is not "must see" no matter how much he preaches it. lol I really do think that if the prduct was a bit more edgy, things would at least pic up. Really don't know what else to say tbh, especially with the lackluster booking on the stretch of a 3 hour program. And a B rated program that has been literally stripped of practically all it's star power and decent booking.


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Careful, Swagg. You'll get told off wanting the AE back, but that's not true.

You, like me, just want some edgy TV and not TV for 5 year olds.
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