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post #6911 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 04:23 PM
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The thing is with WWE is that the peak of 5 million shows that the audience is still there. Raw 1000 shows that those numbers can be achieved (I know that was nostalgia, but the point is there).

It is not a case of the viewers have gone and are never coming back. In 3 months once Rock is back, three hours is back down to two and WrestleMania season is in full swing, the numbers will be back up.

Hopefully. I say hopefully because this year only did ~4.5 million. But this year's build was uninspiring to say the least.
This... wrestling is never truly "down". It might not always peak at the 10 million plus levels, but the niche audience is always there. All it takes is good consistent booking and we flock back to the product in droves. Hopefully some of those reports are true and someone finally got in McMahon's face and called him out for booking shit. Not the writers, not the wrestlers... but McMahon.

As you said... when something happens the numbers are there. It's just been that they make a noise then do nothing for months and expect people to stay watching now.

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post #6912 of 9175 (permalink) Old 10-11-2012, 08:46 PM
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Vince is a huge draw. Why are people trying to imply punk made those numbers? punk had a segment with aj and lost nearly 300k viewers...draws bring high viewers in whatever they do. Punk needs those guys around him to get anywhere near those numbers...
That's pretty faulty logic considering Cena, who everyone here proclaims is a proven draw, had a quarter hour with Edge on the April 23rd go home show to Extreme Rules that did a 2.60 rating, which is absolutely horrendous. So evidently, draws don't ALWAYS bring in high viewers in WHATEVER they do.



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That's pretty faulty logic considering Cena, who everyone here proclaims is a proven draw, had a quarter hour with Edge on the April 23rd go home show to Extreme Rules that did a 2.60 rating, which is absolutely horrendous. So evidently, draws don't ALWAYS bring in high viewers in WHATEVER they do.
Yup. Also haven't guys like Triple H, The Rock, John Cena and Jeff Hardy lost viewers in the overrun before? The logic in this thread is as astounding as always.






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Stupid comment. Punk/Vince draws others couldnt, since when gaining viewers in the 9pm timeslot is a big success, Punk and Orton and half of the roster drew more than Shemaus in that timeslot, Sheamus cant show his muscles in other timeslots. Funny comments are just funny comments, I guess you will be the next guy to laugh at his comments. Sarcastic "Oh, I hate this guy I should not give him credit, boo" kids are funny. I guess you're one of the next Rock316ae wannabes. Hate is a strong word, and I can't believe some of you with comments like that, can enjoy it. If Sheamus can draw in other timeslots that's a good sigh but if not that's just whatever.
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Yup. Also haven't guys like Triple H, The Rock, John Cena and Jeff Hardy lost viewers in the overrun before? The logic in this thread is as astounding as always.
The difference is that guys like Triple H/Rock/Cena are proven big time money makers at a consistent level, something nobody else on the roster is and no, not Punk or Orton or whoever. They are proven but that doesn't mean they are full proof either. If somebody is a proven draw but they lose viewers the odd time it doesn't mean that they aren't a draw anymore. It really shouldn't be that hard to understand tbh.

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The thing is with WWE is that the peak of 5 million shows that the audience is still there. Raw 1000 shows that those numbers can be achieved (I know that was nostalgia, but the point is there).

It is not a case of the viewers have gone and are never coming back. In 3 months once Rock is back, three hours is back down to two and WrestleMania season is in full swing, the numbers will be back up.

Hopefully. I say hopefully because this year only did ~4.5 million. But this year's build was uninspiring to say the least.
So wait Vince/Punk actually managed to outdraw Rock/Cena from RTW this year?
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That's pretty faulty logic considering Cena, who everyone here proclaims is a proven draw, had a quarter hour with Edge on the April 23rd go home show to Extreme Rules that did a 2.60 rating, which is absolutely horrendous. So evidently, draws don't ALWAYS bring in high viewers in WHATEVER they do.
To be fair, that was one of the exclusive 3 hour shows before the 3 hours era begun so that might have something to do with it.
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To be fair, that was one of the exclusive 3 hour shows before the 3 hours era begun so that might have something to do with it.
True. But the fact remains the same. Even though Cena is a proven draw everybody has off days. However as Starbuck has said, Cena and the others mentioned(HHH Rock) are proven money-makers. Punk and many others, Orton(outside of his massive 2009 run) and Hardy included have been what could be best described as "fluxuating" or "hit and miss" in terms of ratings(whereas all 3 have reamined incredibly over and sold lots of merchandise)



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True. But the fact remains the same. Even though Cena is a proven draw everybody has off days. However as Starbuck has said, Cena and the others mentioned(HHH Rock) are proven money-makers. Punk and many others, Orton(outside of his massive 2009 run) and Hardy included have been what could be best described as "fluxuating" or "hit and miss" in terms of ratings(whereas all 3 have reamined incredibly over and sold lots of merchandise)
Exactly. Guys like Cena and Rock have proven to be consistent draws whereas other like Orton (ratings/merchandise in 2009) and Punk (merchandise last year) have had their periods as valuable assets to the business but are not nearly as consistent.
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