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Old 10-03-2012, 11:29 AM   #6581 (permalink)
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2.5? Just about what the quality of the show deserved.

Not the biggest TNA fan but I really do hope they can find a way to draw in ratings to around a 2.0, then WWE might actually make an effort.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:35 AM   #6582 (permalink)
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I really hope the ratings continue to sink and at one point, TNA manages to get one over on WWE. It'll be epic because this company doesn't deserve to stay in business anymore. At least it seems like in TNA they have respect for the fans, unlike Vince and his old ass mind.

And despite what it seems like I've said in the past, Punk is not the sole person to blame for the ratings. He certainly doesn't help them (hence he's no draw) but I wouldn't say he's a "ratings killer". The whole show is just terrible and that's why the ratings go down every week.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:52 AM   #6583 (permalink)
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CM Punk is pretty much the only reason I watch and I have to say, he's made Raw way more entertaining than it's been in months.
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CM Punk is pretty much the only reason I watch and I have to say, he's made Raw way more entertaining than it's been in months.
It makes me laugh that people think Punk is the reason ratings are low. Imagine this Raw or last weeks Raw without Punk, do people acutely think Raw ratings would go up or even stay the same? they would sink even lower then they are now as everything around Punk and Cena are bombing in the breakdowns. DB, Kane, Sheamus, Del Rio and everyone except Cena, Punk and Big Show are losing viewers.
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I really hope the ratings continue to sink and at one point, TNA manages to get one over on WWE. It'll be epic because this company doesn't deserve to stay in business anymore. At least it seems like in TNA they have respect for the fans, unlike Vince and his old ass mind.

And despite what it seems like I've said in the past, Punk is not the sole person to blame for the ratings. He certainly doesn't help them (hence he's no draw) but I wouldn't say he's a "ratings killer". The whole show is just terrible and that's why the ratings go down every week.
Mate, I'm not a company loyalist by any means but saying they deserve to go out of business is overstepping the mark a tad. Forgive this sudden bout of PC, but the guys and gals that really, genuinely give it their all don't need to be held to such a statement based on what is ultimately management's final say. What's more, your enjoyment is likely to change at the drop of the hat when the 'E do step it up and appeal to your taste (whether they stumble into it or it's by design is irrelevant really).

The fact of the matter is that this company is still chugging along quite well in many aspects and this will probably be regarded as another slight obstacle they overcame in three to four weeks. I've been on these forums (sporadically) since 2006 and have seen a lot of posts of similar nature forecasting dark days ahead based on incidents the company would largely shrug off years later. Perhaps that is what irked me about your post: the hyperbole in response to the situation. One week you'll say they deserve to die out but it's very likely you and many others will come back in here in, say, three to four and say something along the lines of "well done WWE! You've really stepped it up since that one really bad show, keep it up, nice going, etc."
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When Vince dies and Team Steph takes over everything. The floodgates will open up. That dumb broad consists of all of Vince's bad traits and none of his good ones. If she wasn't his daughter, she'd of been fired many years ago for massacring her dad's creative direction to the point where domestic is in dire straits. The only thing propping this company up was Shane McMahon opening them up to the international markets a decade ago. And even those markets are eroding.
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Or is it only the ones who go on to highly visible careers in movies that owe something? Why do Johnson (who left after putting people over, doing the traditionally "right thing") and Lesnar (who did not; except for making Eddie a legitimate star) get called sell-outs who "forgot where they came from" when someone who retires to do some regular job get credit (as they should) for moving on and making it without falling into a sea of addiction?
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Mate, I'm not a company loyalist by any means but saying they deserve to go out of business is overstepping the mark a tad. Forgive this sudden bout of PC, but the guys and gals that really, genuinely give it their all don't need to be held to such a statement based on what is ultimately management's final say. What's more, your enjoyment is likely to change at the drop of the hat when the 'E do step it up and appeal to your taste (whether they stumble into it or it's by design is irrelevant really).

The fact of the matter is that this company is still chugging along quite well in many aspects and this will probably be regarded as another slight obstacle they overcame in three to four weeks. I've been on these forums (sporadically) since 2006 and have seen a lot of posts of similar nature forecasting dark days ahead based on incidents the company would largely shrug off years later. Perhaps that is what irked me about your post: the hyperbole in response to the situation. One week you'll say they deserve to die out but it's very likely you and many others will come back in here in, say, three to four and say something along the lines of "well done WWE! You've really stepped it up since that one really bad show, keep it up, nice going, etc."
I'm waiting for that day where they manage to make me say something along the lines of that final sentence and the show doesn't rely on the star power of a legend like The Rock or special attraction like Lesnar. I respect the talent that genuinely want to put on a show but with this company dying, it might also make them work for a different promotion where their talent is truly appreciated and they are utilized properly. And that aside, I just don't find majority of them entertaining to start with, so it's not like the fault lies 150% on Vince and the writers.

That aside, the last time I really enjoyed a full show from this company was Raw after Wrestlemania and WM28 itself as well as Extreme Rules barring the ending. I also enjoyed most of Raw 1000 and some of Raw is Vince (June) but otherwise, Raw and specially Smackdown have been horse-shit in over 5 months now. These are the darkest days in WWE history since 1995. I'd rather go back to the the Guest Host Era. And fuck it, I'd even go back to the summer of 2007 of all years!!! That's how bad it is today. I'm saying that just when I thought wrestling couldn't be surrounded by darker clouds more so than it was in 2007 following the Benoit tragedy.

And I have a bigger chance of becoming a millionaire in a week than WWE changing for the better. They are HOPELESS, I'm telling ya. I tried to be optimistic many times when they were screwing up but I've had enough and the management is full of idiots that need to be fired and get hit in the head with an object so maybe they come to their senses.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:40 PM   #6588 (permalink)
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EVERYONE BOYCOTT WWE NEXT WEEK.....I wanna see how much lower their ratings will drop. just dvr that shit. maybe vince will realize his show blows now.
No. Because when people do that, Vince thinks its because Cena isn't on the show, and that is exactly what everyone at WWE will be thinking. Lowest ratings of the year, funnily enough, Cena wasn't on the show. So they will attempt to push MORE Cena down our throats, which we don't want.

That aside.

Aren't the low ratings this week down to the fact there was a huge NFL match or something?
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I really hope the ratings continue to sink and at one point, TNA manages to get one over on WWE. It'll be epic because this company doesn't deserve to stay in business anymore. At least it seems like in TNA they have respect for the fans, unlike Vince and his old ass mind.

And despite what it seems like I've said in the past, Punk is not the sole person to blame for the ratings. He certainly doesn't help them (hence he's no draw) but I wouldn't say he's a "ratings killer". The whole show is just terrible and that's why the ratings go down every week.
Why doesn't it deserve to stay in business? Because it's not to your taste? I'm surprised how much you know about the show's quality since you regularly say that you're not watching. Seems like my relation to Smackdown, which I don't watch. I know what segments happen at times but I can't judge the quality of them without seeing them. I just know that I'm not interested in viewing another WWE show and therefor don't care how it does.

I don't disagree that a lot of Raw is bad, but that's obviously not my point either.

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WWE desperately needs a revamp. Put Raw on from 8-10 pm and make the rating at least PG-DLV like Smackdown use to be. Or make it have the same type of edge that the "Summer of Punk" had last year. That's when it was actually entertaining because of it's edginess and maturity of the program. Now it's a fuckin' joke for hardcore fans and the IWC because it's so corny and targeted to 4 year olds.
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