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Old 09-30-2012, 01:27 PM   #6391 (permalink)
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You haven't proved a damn thing. I searched on google and all I got was a report from October that states Punk has overtaken Cena as the top seller and another from February that says they are "neck and neck". Nothing more.

And the more you cry about red reps, the more I'll hand out. I'm not "hiding" behind anything, I'm very open about red repping you.
I'm not crying about it dude as much as you're, I'm just laughing at you guys as you're the only ones giving me more than 30+ red reps. Are you both the same guys or something . Or both of you are just obsessed. You're just mad about the truth as you can't respond to me and handle it, so you have no choice but to give me red reps and hide, you're weak that's why. It's old news you can't easily find it on Google. As I said watch his old interviews, you gonna find it somewhere.

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Old 09-30-2012, 01:53 PM   #6392 (permalink)
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I'm not crying about it dude as much as you're, I'm just laughing at you guys as you're the only ones giving me more than 30+ red reps. Are you both the same guys or something . Or both of you are just obsessed. You're just mad about the truth as you can't respond to me and handle it, so you have no choice but to give me red reps and hide, you're weak that's why. It's old news you can't easily find it on Google. As I said watch his old interviews, you gonna find it somewhere.
"Weak"? Hah, give me a break. You act like it's a fight or something. Only time I red rep you is when you moan about it or make stupid posts which happens A LOT, hence the "30+" reds. And the fact that you name-check me on your sig shows just how much you are bothered by it so therefore, I'll continue doing it just for that, but I'm fair enough so the posts I rep actually deserve it! And you threatened Green Light with "I'm gonna unleash red rep on you every hour". How sad is that? Not to mention since you are in the red, you can't rep anybody!

And "the truth"? Only thing you come out with is mad bullshit, you still haven't proved anything about merchandise sales other than saying "its on google go watch his interview". Like I said, my google search showed me two reports, one from October that says Punk has become #1 merch seller and another from February that says Cena and Punk are "neck and neck".

Until you're willing to prove what you're saying with actual links other than "some old interview", this is the last time I'm replying to you and from now on, only replies I'll hand out are through red reps!
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:06 PM   #6393 (permalink)
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The more that I think about it, the more I realize just how eerily similar Orton and Punk are. Why there is so much fighting between the two fanbases is something I will never understand.
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"Weak"? Hah, give me a break. You act like it's a fight or something. Only time I red rep you is when you moan about it or make stupid posts which happens A LOT, hence the "30+" reds. And the fact that you name-check me on your sig shows just how much you are bothered by it so therefore, I'll continue doing it just for that, but I'm fair enough so the posts I rep actually deserve it! And you threatened Green Light with "I'm gonna unleash red rep on you every hour". How sad is that? Not to mention since you are in the red, you can't rep anybody!

And "the truth"? Only thing you come out with is mad bullshit, you still haven't proved anything about merchandise sales other than saying "its on google go watch his interview". Like I said, my google search showed me two reports, one from October that says Punk has become #1 merch seller and another from February that says Cena and Punk are "neck and neck".

Only you're willing to prove what you're saying with actual links other than "some old interview", this is the last time I'm replying to you and from now on, only replies I'll hand out are through red reps!
You mean the posts, like one time when I said "Cena has weak ass 5 moves", is that really so shocking for you, and stupid to you. Youre just mad about anything I say about Cena as if I was wrong. You just don't like opinions about your Fav wrestler, as if I was trying to provoke you, no not at all, I just find him annoying and very childish with his promos, and doesnt sell the moves correctly and you get mad about that as if Im wrong. Who cares dude.

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Give credit to Mick Foley, the guy who created the idea of that segment. You're so obsessed with the Rock that you don't mention the guy who was part of it. To Foley and Rock credit, is that hard to say.
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To throw a spanner in the works The Rock is quoted in an interview on YouTube saying Mick Foley came up with the original idea to do This is your life.

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True, Mick Foley's drawing power is very underrated.
And the only thing Green light said when he red rep me is "No" as if he's Rock316ae or something. Trying to act smart but he's wrong.



As for the prove, you mean when I exposed Orton and Hardy drawing power. How many times should I prove something to you. Really? I just don't have it right now. You can't really find the reports as its freaking old news. But you already said it from october and to February, that's like what 4 or 5 months + from July how much it will give, you just answered yourself, wah stupid. You're just trying to be an Ass, as I said I bought one after February, 20 days after it, and Punk was still the top seller on Tshirts.

And this is the most recent interview it may show why some can't beat Cena on Kids category:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4VTra2lb8

And I'm not gonna waste my time and check his old interviews for you. You will not believe it anyways if he said it himself, you go and check them.
@PHX was with me on this, so he knows its true.

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That Punk interview:

"I was using the anaconda vise and the office didn't want me to use it anymore. Probably because it was working."

Also, interesting that they don't make his shirt in youth sizes.
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The more that I think about it, the more I realize just how eerily similar Orton and Punk are. Why there is so much fighting between the two fanbases is something I will never understand.
It's like Chicago White Sox fans vs. Chicago Cubs fans. (Which is a pretty sweet analogy on my part because Punk is a diehard Cubs fan from Chicago who detests the White Sox.)

You can brush up on the sociological meaning of the divide between White Sox fans and Cubs fans here: http://northernstar.info/dekalb_scen....html?mode=jqm
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Okay, so anyway, going to post the results from my little experiment regarding Punk. Now I didn't do every segment. Punk is seldom out of the turn of the hour segments anyway. I didn't do everything, as tbh... I got lazy. But this is certainly the vast majority of segments where he's been arguably the biggest draw. I use the 9PM (for 3-hour Raws only), the 10PM, and the 11PM.

There is no perfect way to determine whether the quarter was a "success" (using that loosely) or a "failure". What I did was simple. The first thing I looked at was the rating number and compared it to the average of the show. If it was above the average rating, it was a success. And by success, I mean it did better than the average of the show, which may not be a success to the whole product, but the segment/match held the show up. If it was below the average rating, it was a failure. If there's no rating indicated in the breakdown I got it from, I look at the gain compared to other gains.

It's a fair way to look at it, but I know there's logic in assuming gains are what should be looked at primarily, but I just think the average of the show is what we should look at and compare numbers to. It's the simplest way to do it as well I'd think. But anyway, here it is:

Punk Segment Gains/Losses (Gains have nothing in front of number, losses have "-" in front of number)
11PM
5/7: -105,000 (2.94)- Punk/Bryan-Tensai (Failed, lost viewers and average rating 3.01)

10PM
1/9: 128,000 (3.0)- Punk/Swagger (Success, overall rating 2.86)
1/30: 219,000 (3.54)- Punk/Bryan (Failed, overall rating 3.55)
2/6: 94,000 (??)- Punk/Jericho (Failed, no rating indicated, very low gain)
3/5: 205,000 (3.20)- Punk-Sheamus/Bryan-Jericho (Failed, overall rating 3.23)
3/26: 132,000 (2.96)- Punk/Christian/Jericho + Clay/Hawkins (Failed. Overall rating 3.05)
4/2: 148,000 (3.6?)- Punk/Henry (Success, overall rating 3.42, though down 150,000 from opener which did a 3.6, so Punk/Henry should only be a little lower and thus still a success)
4/9: 379,000 (3.19)- Punk/Jericho (Success, overall rating 3.10)
4/23: 270,000 (3.63)- Punk/Jericho (Success, overall 3.33 rating for normal two hours)
6/4: 340,000 (2.93-3.02)- Punk/Kane (Success, overall rating 2.92)

9PM
9/10: 555,000 (??)- Punk/Orton (Success, highest 9PM gain since 7/23 Raw 1000, no rating indicated)
9/3: 370,000 (??)- Anger Management and Punk/Sheamus (Failed, second lowest 9PM gain)


A one quick note is that Henry, while doing well for SD's buyrates as champion, has underperformed on Raw in breakdowns many times. So I don't put him on the top level as a draw and so that match is included.

Let me know if anyone knows the ratings for the segments missing them, and let me know if anything is incorrect/should be adjusted as far as ratings, gains, and who was in the segment. I took these right from the breakdowns and I'll post them if people want me to.

I know this doesn't really prove anything, but I was just interested in seeing it. And what do you know, I was right in that half the time he does well without a major draw, half the time he doesn't (at least by how I did it).
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It's like Chicago White Sox fans vs. Chicago Cubs fans. (Which is a pretty sweet analogy on my part because Punk is a diehard Cubs fan from Chicago who detests the White Sox.)

You can brush up on the sociological meaning of the divide between White Sox fans and Cubs fans here: http://northernstar.info/dekalb_scen....html?mode=jqm
Trust me, as a fellow Chicagoan, I know how ridiculous the century-long feud is.
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