[Mister Hands]

Originally Posted by SarcasmoBlaster

RAW is a three hour show that isn't very good. It's tough to make people stick around for a three hour show, even when it is good, and it's impossible to do when it's not. That's why the third hour continually tanks. It's simple, people. You don't need a 5,000 word thesis on how your ARCH ENEMY wrestler X is to blame. Christ.

Team Sarcasmo.

[ThePeoplezStunner3]

LOL how many more pages does it take to say Cm Punk cant DRAW its the same thing every week Ratings marks vs Punk marks will it ever end lol

[DesolationRow]

Originally Posted by Tnmore

^^^

anyone?

No doubt Big Show is a novelty act, a special attraction to casual fans of sort. And when you plug him into a scenario like facing John Cena in the main event of Raw, a lot of people are probably going to tune in. It's completely anathema to the so-called "IWC," but evidence seems to bear it out.

He's probably a bigger "pure" draw than Punk is, objectively speaking, but then, we're talking about one guy who's been heavily featured in pro wrestling for the last seventeen years, was at or near the top of WCW, before and during the Monday Night Wars and was then a huge "trade," so to speak, when he went to WWE in early 1999. And he's been heavily featured for a long, long time in WWE ever since then; even when he essentially fulfills the duties of a midcarder, he's a "name" that many people like to follow.

Punk is like the guy who had a great season in a sport with his performance last summer when he had some excellent teammates helping him out in Cena, Vince McMahon and Triple H, and it's hard to gauge how and where you place him, whether it's vs. Big Show or not.

Originally Posted by SarcasmoBlaster

RAW is a three hour show that isn't very good. It's tough to make people stick around for a three hour show, even when it is good, and it's impossible to do when it's not. That's why the third hour continually tanks. It's simple, people. You don't need a 5,000 word thesis on how your ARCH ENEMY wrestler X is to blame. Christ.

You know... That kind of makes sense to me.

[Gamblor]

At this point I'd say Show is a bigger draw than Punk, but compared to the standards we've been comparing Punk to? The likes of Rock/Taker/Cena? I wouldn't call Show a "draw" except in special cases. Though he can pop bigger numbers, bigger than Punk on occasion, he's not consistent, which is the same problem Punk has, though Punk is the WWE Champion and pushed as the number 2 guy, so he sticks out more.

But as I said, on occasion, Show can be a big draw. Like for WM24. Now granted, Mayweather was "The Draw" of the PPV, but I think putting him in a match with Show, because of Show's size that makes him a larger than life figure (to some degree), plus it matches so well with Mayweather, I'd say Show ended up being a bigger draw with Mayweather than anyone else in the company at the time would've (including bigger draws than Show normally like HHH, HBK, Flair, etc.), except maybe Undertaker and Cena. For Taker that's mainly due to the fact a "Streak vs. Streak" match would've been a huge deal, and Taker much like Show has always been a big special attraction draw, though Taker's also generally a big draw as well as the deadman. For Cena he's the number one guy in the company, even back then, and Cena/Mayweather would probably be the biggest match they could make.

[Cack_Thu]

Regarding ratings it seems that CM Punk cant even hold guan sena's jockstraps

That said i strongly believe Phil is the best internet drawing champion in the world

[Wrestlinfan35]

Punk's the second biggest draw in the company on the current full time roster. Despite what people in here spout during these MARK WARZS. Then again nobody on the full time roster is that big of a draw anymore, not even Cena. The special attractions are the big draws and the only reason they are is because they're just that, special attractions. They only show up once in a while so it's obvious they'll spark some buzz whenever they come back. But then their appeal dies down. See: Rock during RTWM and Triple H.

[kokepepsi]

Originally Posted by Wrestlinfan35

Punk in highest segments of show = Punk at fault for entire show. This thread never fails. The fucking brilliance.

Yup, annoying as fuck
3 segments gain consistently. Boom end of story, regardless of who is shown. The numbers might jump a couple hundred thousand if A STAR is involved, big fucking WHOOPDIDUODA.

shit ratings until they can keep viewers throughout the show.

[The-Rock-Says]

Originally Posted by Wrestlinfan35

Punk's the second biggest draw in the company on the current full time roster. Despite what people in here spout during these MARK WARZS. Then again nobody on the full time roster is that big of a draw anymore, not even Cena. The special attractions are the big draws and the only reason they are is because they're just that, special attractions. They only show up once in a while so it's obvious they'll spark some buzz whenever they come back. But then their appeal dies down. See: Rock during RTWM and Triple H.

Rock's appeal hasn't died down. WM - 1.217m (so far)

[kokepepsi]

He is talking about TV ratings which sort of stagnated/were not as good as the year before

Although Rock could have shown up maybe 2 times on Raw and it would still have done 1million+ buys

[The-Rock-Says]

Yes. But Rock and Brock will be judged on PPV numbers.

They've done great, great business so far. (Rock has done amazing business.)