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Old 09-27-2012, 10:37 AM   #6231 (permalink)
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No, it was AJ. Remember how she single-handedly carried that stupid love triangle storyline? What a ratings juggernaut. Maddox definitely helped. Guy has a big following.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:57 AM   #6232 (permalink)
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No Criss Angle helped a lot his tweets was the main reason for the gains. People liked his tweets toward Punk so they had to tune in. Also the ref was bulky people thought he will kick Punks skinny ass. The ending was Punks problem, Cena and Ryback helped it to rise little bit, even tho they ended the show.

Where is the guy that said "Punk cant draw" I bet he got tons of green reps.
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Lord Meltzer says that Punk and Foley promo was the only hit and did very well. The overrun is one of the worst ever in fifteen years, and that next weeks Raw could do worse as they didn't advertise anything for next week.
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Choke2Death brings up a good point regards Cena/Punk. The whole idea of "respect" is quite retarded. Punk beat Cena in the best possible build they could have had last year in July. A year later, after months of Cena "respecting" Punk, heck he even said it in a promo backstage last year during August, for standing up and holding true to his words of winning in Chicago. Now we have them actually have a semi-decent build with decent overruns, until we get a draw as a result at PPV. That, coupled with the fact there was little to no build last week, made the outset for this RAW and the future of this fued, disastrous and unappealing to many. But if WWE find something works, they will use it again and again. (With dwindling interest)

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What else is there to discuss outside of the most overpushed person on the roster and his (lack of) drawing abilities? That Santino and Zack Ryder lose viewers every time they're on? Not very interesting, is it?

And the logic is indeed mind-blowing. Orton as champion on Smackdown gets 1.7 and all blame is placed on him without anyone even looking at segment breakdowns or anything beyond the full show ratings but Raw is doing terribly bad with Punk as champion and him main eventing the show yet he always gets away with it because his segments gain viewers since the rest of the show has viewers tuning out at a rapid pace. And to further show Punk's lack of drawing abilities, ratings are constantly going down with him being the centerpiece of the show. At least when Cena's meaningless feuds main evented, they didn't reach the upper 2 area for a month straight!

First it was "PUNK CANT DRAW BECAUSE WWE MAKES HIM IRRELEVANT!!!!11" now there's new excuses like "He gains back the 500k viewers that tuned out and still gets called a ratings killer!!!! ARGH!!!!".
-Italics: However, it does go both ways. Back when Punk was feuding with Jericho(3.1-.3.3s with Rock/Cena as ME) and then Daniel Bryan( which it was Big Show VS Cena and 2.7s-3.0s) the entire ratings were blamed on Punk by a lot of people. But it is probably just his blind haters, like the blind Orton haters.

-Bolded: Rather than bring back my huge post earlier. I'll simply put it as Starbuck did. The fact that he has been treated so irrelevantly as Champion will make people rather uninterested in his first(relatively) main event program as Champion. It simply is not clicking as for the past months, if they missed Punk, they did not miss the main event. Perhaps that ideology is still with a portion of the audience?
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What else is there to discuss outside of the most overpushed person on the roster and his (lack of) drawing abilities? That Santino and Zack Ryder lose viewers every time they're on? Not very interesting, is it?

And the logic is indeed mind-blowing. Orton as champion on Smackdown gets 1.7 and all blame is placed on him without anyone even looking at segment breakdowns or anything beyond the full show ratings but Raw is doing terribly bad with Punk as champion and him main eventing the show yet he always gets away with it because his segments gain viewers since the rest of the show has viewers tuning out at a rapid pace. And to further show Punk's lack of drawing abilities, ratings are constantly going down with him being the centerpiece of the show. At least when Cena's meaningless feuds main evented, they didn't reach the upper 2 area for a month straight!

First it was "PUNK CANT DRAW BECAUSE WWE MAKES HIM IRRELEVANT!!!!11" now there's new excuses like "He gains back the 500k viewers that tuned out and still gets called a ratings killer!!!! ARGH!!!!".
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The arguments of so many people on here are that Punk can't draw PERIOD. The fact that his segments gained viewers dispute that. Now is he inconsistent? Absolutely. But to say he can't draw at all is wrong.
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The arguments of so many people on here are that Punk can't draw PERIOD. The fact that his segments gained viewers dispute that. Now is he inconsistent? Absolutely. But to say he can't draw at all is wrong.
He's not drawing viewers is the point. Segment breakdowns are irrelvant when Raw's overall numbers are decreasing.

I don't think Punk's to blame for WWE's issues but Main Event storylines are almost always going to garner the most attention and draw the best numbers for the show.
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Sure, people tune into Punk's segments (when he's paired with Foley), but overall viewership is still declining. That's like when you're down 30 in a basketball game and you go on a 10-0 run. Well, you're gaining ground, but you're still losing.
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I was actaully reading the last 35 pages that I missed and I'm still not surprised about the ignorance around here.
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And I think a lot of people are missing the point here tbh. Y U PUNKS MARKS NO UNDERSTAND?
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The overall viewership was shit. But Punk should absolutely not be getting any of the blame as the ONLY THREE SEGMENTS THAT GAINED NUMBERS involved Punk. Yes the numbers they got were not good, but the average viewership was down anyway because of the heavy competition. Stars like Sheamus, Del Rio, Ziggler, Rey Mysterio, Ryback, Daniel Bryan, Kane etc drove all the viewers further away as Punk, Foley, Heyman, Cena etc at least got some of them back.
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