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Old 09-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #6181 (permalink)
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Bryan and Kane are comedy. Comedy in such a big role doesn't draw. Sorry, just how it is. There's a place for comedy on the card, but not to this extent. The audience being into them and them drawing successfully are two different things, and the past few weeks their segments have lost viewers big time.
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Even Mr. Ratings Ryback has been on the decline for the past few weeks.


And as I figured, Punk was involved in the 2 highest rated segments of the night at 8 and 9. If anyone can seriously look at this and say he's not a draw, you are clearly trolling or in denial.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:59 PM   #6182 (permalink)
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So much for Ryback being a draw lol.

I think it says something when the two things that are over with Vince loses viewers.

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Old 09-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #6183 (permalink)
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Wow at that breakdown.

Well, first the good news. People have adjusted to the 8PM start time. For 3 out of the last 4 weeks, if I'm not mistaken, it has done well. Punk/Heyman/AJ started off the show nicely considering the average number of the show. Punk/Foley picked back up all that was lost in the first hour after Punk/Heyman/AJ.

Now the mixed/kinda bad news. The overrun/final segment, while an average gain, was an overall pitiful number. Considering Punk/Cena should be doing a lot better, especially considering Cena was advertised which should've grabbed his fan's attention. Doesn't help that Punk had already appeared twice that night prior and no matter how big a draw you are, appearing in three segments in a night is going to diminish your drawing power for the final one. That being said, I'm not taking the blame off Punk. If he was as big a draw as Cena, they should've at least packed back in the viewers they had at the 8PM slot, but they were down 300,000+ viewers from that. Definitely something is off about the appeal of the program. Maybe Starbuck really does have a point that this "shooting/kayfabe breaking" is bad for a storyline from a drawing perspective, even if it is very very entertaining for those of us who enjoy it. Then again, there wasn't much kayfabe breaking going on, was there?

Overall, a bad week in the ratings game for Raw. Let's see what happens next week and if the downward trend continues. I have a feeling honestly this is as low as it's going to be. As I mentioned, Raw's in September, especially the last week seems to be one of if not the lowest rating of the year. It might still only hover above this week's number and still won't be good overall by today's standards, but I don't think it'll drop any lower. This will probably continue until the build up to SVS when Lesnar comes back.
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And as I figured, Punk was involved in the 2 highest rated segments of the night at 8 and 9. If anyone can seriously look at this and say he's not a draw, you are clearly trolling or in denial.
You forgot all those times he lost viewers at the 10pm slot and the weak overruns he has had.
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Whatever push Ryback was going to get could be dead after this week lol.

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Well seeing how on the east coast its already 11:00pm and a good portion on WWE's new "REAL FANS" as WWE marks would like to say, Well most of them are in bed. But I would agree that Punk isn't a major draw but to blame "him" and not the WWE is a bit foolish.

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You forgot all those times he lost viewers at the 10pm slot and the weak overruns he has had.
Nah, didn't forget. I never said the guy was an awesome draw. People in this thread constantly blame him for the poor ratings week after week and claim he's not a draw period. I'm saying that's false. He CAN draw, the ratings for his segments the past few weeks have proven that. It just happens that his drawing is inconsistent. Some weeks its up, some weeks its down (as you've already mentioned, he's lost viewers in the 10pm slot and had weak overruns). However, to shoulder him with all the responsibility of the horrid ratings and to say the guy can't draw at all, that's incorrect. Look at Cena, he's had bad drawing segments (his segments before ER with Edge was one of the lowest of the year and that OPENED Raw). Does that mean he's not a draw? Of course not. So why is it that same logic shouldn't be applied to Punk? If he never had a segment that drew, THEN I'd agree that he can't draw.

The fact that his segments the past few weeks, even without Cena, have had good gains and some of the best rated segments of the show tells me that the fans are into him, which is great.
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Well I guess I was too pre-emptive on putting the blame on Punk. Lo and behold, he was probably the only bright spot on the active roster. The breakdown still looks awful even though the show was really entertaining. The fact that the draw for this episode was Lawler's interview, and that segment did nothing at all, is a very telling sign.
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Obviously the segments with Foley and Heyman did good. Good thing they saved the anit-draw in CM Punk. Everything else is standard fair, Cena drawing as always and Rocks dust keeping this company alive.
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Obviously the segments with Foley and Heyman did good. Good thing they saved the anit-draw in CM Punk. Everything else is standard fair, Cena drawing as always and Rocks dust keeping this company alive.
Don't forget Ryback at the end saving the overrun from losing viewers.
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